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Best jobs for autistic/neurodivergent people

...I am currently trying out online shops and see if it’s fun or not for me. What would u recommend?
This is what I would recommend - although you already know it is more complicated than it seems, especially driving people toward your site.

Avoid "multi-Level marketing" schemes (legal pyramid scams where one, technically sells a product, but mainly as a way of roping in your own group of patsies), don't try to price-compete with the big boys or cheap imports - sell something better & unique. I sell weird & odd old things (the antiques you don't see in antique stores). Hunting the stuff is fun, selling it allows me to keep having fun.

How is it going for you?
 
What are the best jobs for autistic or neurodivergent individuals? Mods, move if an existing thread on this has been made. I am currently trying out online shops and see if it’s fun or not for me. What would u recommend?
Thift shops or clothing shops in general are so fun.
But it depends whether you can do full time work or work in a regular way.
Stuff like doing people's makeup or nails when they come to your home for the artistic and beauty inclined.
Working a job at home like something like advertising, helping with selling products.
Or autistics can do a lot of things some can touch type so you can find an administration job where you can type documents.
Or driving jobs where you can deliver letters or papers.
Or some job you can get an online degree and work from home.
Or start your own home business if you are great at that.
Or etsy, blogging or YouTube
 
For those more mechanically inclined or that enjoy creating and working with their hands, I would suggest any of the skilled trades. Huge demand right now. Wages can be competitive with professions requiring 4-6 yr degrees.
 
The work was extremely predictable but very important.
That's one thing I would occasionally daydream about. The kind of job that was repetitive and predictable on a daily basis. Seems like one of those considerations of employment that would appear quite attractive to many of us on the spectrum.

All the jobs/careers I had were uncomfortably "dynamic" more often than I liked.
 
At historic sites, historical interpreters may gave tours, demonstrations (may be in uniform or period clothing for the era represented) and explanation of things and how they relate to or contrast with the present.

At parks, park rangers do a mix of explaining things to visitors while also engaging in conservation work.

Those would be the more public facing roles (along with ticket/gate staff, concessions, gift shop, etc.), and then there's the primarily back end roles, which may include researchers, archivists, conservationists, restorers and other tradespersons, and various types of scientists.

I think I started info-dumping when responding but this is what I said:

This is not how it is in the National Park Service in the United States. In NPS park staff mostly do what the NPS calls “interpretation”. It requires a special training and certification. They explained to us that just giving people facts does not do much, they do not remember them. We were trained to explain everything in three ways when we spoke and to convey information in a way that had a connection to the people listening.

In the NPS every park or site has Rangers but very few of them, it is a specific job title. There are not many Park Rangers in the Park Service compared to the number of staff. There are more Park Interpreters than Rangers. It is subtle and confusing because the work is almost exactly the same and the uniform is the same but Rangers are paid more.

I did not see any Park staff dress in period costumes in the parks where I worked. It may happen in some places but I have not heard of it. Usually it is volunteers who work for the associated national park association that supports that park. NPS uniforms are standard and what Park staff wear. If some National Parks have staff that do sometimes wear period dress I would be surprised but it may be part of their programs and I just never knew about it. I mention all this because the Park Service is very strict about what you can wear especially about the color green worn by staff in different positions. Volunteers are not allowed to wear green.

The front line staff work with visitors. There are many other jobs. In a maritime park there were lots of boat builders and shiprwrights. They did not wear “flat hats”, the broad brimmed hat Rangers and Interpreters wear. They wore Park Service ball caps but the same uniform or sometimes overalls.

We also had Ranger Law Enforcement, our police officers. The name is very confusing I think because they are not Park Rangers though they were the same uniforms but also carry weapons including guns. They work in every National Park except for a few where instead there are United States Park Police. Their uniforms look nothing like the Park Service uniforms, no green or brown at all, they were blue, white and black. They are the oldest police agency in the United States.

The work at the White House and of more than 400 hundred National Parks and National Park sites they only work in about five. I never did find out why or how the choice was made. Both The Park Police and Ranger Law enforcement officers work for the National Park Service and work together in some parks. I always saw them getting along very well.

Oh, in regards to conservation work, I have never seen any Park Rangers assigned to that or doing that work in the U.S. National Park Service. That does not mean it does not happen but it is something I did not see and have not heard of. There are other people who do that though a Park Ranger may be in charge of conservation project. That is one difference between Park Rangers and Park Interpreters, Rangers can be managers.
 
I work full time as a procurement (purchasing) specialist for the railroad. It’s more or less an office job (my associates degree is in office technology). My main task is placing purchase orders with vendors for repair and return of equipment. There are several steps involved from entering the order into the system and dispatching it to the vendor, and getting a final quote from the vendor and sending them an updated order. I’m also involved with several of the tasks in between. It’s a job I can do without too much trouble, and my supervisor and other people in the office are often pleased with my work.

The best kinds of jobs for me are ones that aren’t hectic – that allow me enough time to complete my work properly. Ones that don’t require me to think on my feet or be in charge of making decisions and solving problems. Ones where I don’t have to talk a lot – speak with the public or professionally with people. If I’m given clear instructions and know exactly what I’m supposed to do, I can usually do things well.
 
I think I started info-dumping when responding but this is what I said:

This is not how it is in the National Park Service in the United States. In NPS park staff mostly do what the NPS calls “interpretation”. It requires a special training and certification. They explained to us that just giving people facts does not do much, they do not remember them. We were trained to explain everything in three ways when we spoke and to convey information in a way that had a connection to the people listening.

In the NPS every park or site has Rangers but very few of them, it is a specific job title. There are not many Park Rangers in the Park Service compared to the number of staff. There are more Park Interpreters than Rangers. It is subtle and confusing because the work is almost exactly the same and the uniform is the same but Rangers are paid more.

I did not see any Park staff dress in period costumes in the parks where I worked. It may happen in some places but I have not heard of it. Usually it is volunteers who work for the associated national park association that supports that park. NPS uniforms are standard and what Park staff wear. If some National Parks have staff that do sometimes wear period dress I would be surprised but it may be part of their programs and I just never knew about it. I mention all this because the Park Service is very strict about what you can wear especially about the color green worn by staff in different positions. Volunteers are not allowed to wear green.

The front line staff work with visitors. There are many other jobs. In a maritime park there were lots of boat builders and shiprwrights. They did not wear “flat hats”, the broad brimmed hat Rangers and Interpreters wear. They wore Park Service ball caps but the same uniform or sometimes overalls.

We also had Ranger Law Enforcement, our police officers. The name is very confusing I think because they are not Park Rangers though they were the same uniforms but also carry weapons including guns. They work in every National Park except for a few where instead there are United States Park Police. Their uniforms look nothing like the Park Service uniforms, no green or brown at all, they were blue, white and black. They are the oldest police agency in the United States.

The work at the White House and of more than 400 hundred National Parks and National Park sites they only work in about five. I never did find out why or how the choice was made. Both The Park Police and Ranger Law enforcement officers work for the National Park Service and work together in some parks. I always saw them getting along very well.

Oh, in regards to conservation work, I have never seen any Park Rangers assigned to that or doing that work in the U.S. National Park Service. That does not mean it does not happen but it is something I did not see and have not heard of. There are other people who do that though a Park Ranger may be in charge of conservation project. That is one difference between Park Rangers and Park Interpreters, Rangers can be managers.

Thank you for your overview of the NPS roles and it's always interesting to see how organizations that may seem similar may have some significant differences.

I agree that yes, a big part of intrepretation is about connecting visitors to a place, and one of my favourite ways to start things off is to ask everyone where they're from, or what brings them to the site on that given day, as that gives me some information to work with, and I might, while delivering the usual programming, work in some stories of persons or events that might be more relevant to them. There's also a bunch of training, and when it comes to hiring historical interpreters, ability to engage and captivate audiences is the main attribute that's sought after.

I did a bit of a look into NPS roles after reading your post, and was intrigued by how the NPS has interpretive rangers who are basically interpretive guides with additional responsibilities, but as you've noted, also more career options.

In Canada, park rangers are specific to national parks and while they may deliver programming, they're more into the enforcement side of things. As such, at a historic site, one would not encounter a ranger - everyone would be an interpreter, who can become a interpreter team leader (who does have additional responsibilities such as developing programming, and in that sense would be similar to an interpretive ranger in the US), and from there, a site manager.

Besides uniformed (dark green / white) interpreters and interpreters in period dress, there are, less commonly, first person interpreters (i.e. they're portraying a specific person (or composite) from the period, and when you interact with them, they are in character, which can get confusing for those who don't realize that they're in character or might not be familiar with the period, but for those who are, it can be fun)
 
Thank you for your overview of the NPS roles and it's always interesting to see how organizations that may seem similar may have some significant differences.

I agree that yes, a big part of intrepretation is about connecting visitors to a place, and one of my favourite ways to start things off is to ask everyone where they're from, or what brings them to the site on that given day, as that gives me some information to work with, and I might, while delivering the usual programming, work in some stories of persons or events that might be more relevant to them. There's also a bunch of training, and when it comes to hiring historical interpreters, ability to engage and captivate audiences is the main attribute that's sought after.

I did a bit of a look into NPS roles after reading your post, and was intrigued by how the NPS has interpretive rangers who are basically interpretive guides with additional responsibilities, but as you've noted, also more career options.

In Canada, park rangers are specific to national parks and while they may deliver programming, they're more into the enforcement side of things. As such, at a historic site, one would not encounter a ranger - everyone would be an interpreter, who can become a interpreter team leader (who does have additional responsibilities such as developing programming, and in that sense would be similar to an interpretive ranger in the US), and from there, a site manager.

Besides uniformed (dark green / white) interpreters and interpreters in period dress, there are, less commonly, first person interpreters (i.e. they're portraying a specific person (or composite) from the period, and when you interact with them, they are in character, which can get confusing for those who don't realize that they're in character or might not be familiar with the period, but for those who are, it can be fun)

Hello :)

Canada sounds similar but a little different. NPS staff rules are very clear and strict about what can be worn and said. All the people doing historical reenactments or demonstrations that I have seen were not park staff but volunteers part of each National Park site’s association. They are associations that are their own entity with their own paid staff and volunteers. Their goal is to support the park and fundraise. Often they will be who runs the gift shops. They are wonderful groups. I always saw them showing deference to park staff though I have found their personnel do not understand and appreciate the park resources like NPS staff do.

To explain, in NPS the park is referred to as the resource. After Visitor safety, Its protection is the first priority of all Park staff. They take it very seriously. I have seen Rangers in full uniform picking up garbage (not their job) and stopping people taking even the tiniest bit of a plant from the park. In U.S. National Parks it is illegal to remove anything from the park. A policy that I think is hard for visitors to understand but a park can have more than a million visitors a year. That is enough to cause damage to the resource if people are taking home rocks, plants, bag of sand.

I loved do interp work. I was good at it. I did not ask the visitors about themselves except to see if they had heard of or seen something before. We were trained to describe everything in three ways so all visitors with all levels of knowledge or ways of understanding would be included. For example, “I hope you all noticed the door we came through, the entrance over there, the first opening where the walkway began.”

I could keep doing that during a program so subtly that it was not noticeable but it meant almost no one was left behind. I think I tried harder and it was so important to me because I have always felt left out when things were being explained and no on tried to help me understand. They would just repeat the thing I did not understand the first time. No help.

If I saw someone seeming to have trouble understanding things I would pretend I was confused and needed to repeat something for my own sake or fumble a little pretending I was not able to explain it in the way I began and change to another way. I did that because I could see they were lost but I made it seem like it was me so no one was embarrassed. If anyone needed ask a question and seemed uncomfortable I would answer it quickly and in a way that brought that attention of the group back on me so people forgot someone else asked. This way people started feeling okay asking questions when maybe normally they would not.

We were trained how to point to things, never with a single finger, things like that. We were required to be ‘polite and courteous at all times’ except in situations of safety. In those instances we were allowed to do anything necessary, including shouting or even grabbing a visitor. Stairwells and railings near cliffs for example.

There was a policy that I never trusted NPS enough to test. Everyone knew about it but I did not see anyone try it. We were allowed talk about anything that was historically accurate and if visitors were upset by the language or subject matter we would be protected but it felt too risky so I stayed away from it. For example though this site will not let me use the actual word, there was a particular rope splice that accurately had the name of a slang term for a part of anatomy. I always held back on that though it bothered me. It was used for hundreds of years.

We were not allowed to support visitor’s versions of history if we knew they were not correct. The would say anything they liked but we could not agree with it to be polite though we would usually work around confronting them in front of their friend’s or families.

A small example was a mother who was talking to her son about pirates like they were something fun from the movies. Only when pushed did I start explaining what they really were and did. Nothing fun for a kid.

We could give an educated opinion but never a political one and we could never assert facts unless they were actual facts, not our personal beliefs. I liked that, the fairness, good and bad we were supposed to discuss history (I worked in historical park sites).

National Parks in the United States are paid for by the people, including non-citizens. The parks belong to everyone and any one of those people can ask anything about the parks including any funding or the salaries of staff. This does not mean it would be given to them at the park, they could contact the Park Service of another agency. But it was their park. They paid for the uniforms, the paint on the buildings, everything and the park was their business but also their responsibility since it did belong to everyone they could not damage it, for example - taking something home with them.

Getting a job with the National Park Service is very difficult and can take years. You can start as a volunteer and after all your training and work experience take a seasonal position. You might have to do that several times until a permanent one opens up and you can apply but a lot of other people are applying too.

Graduating college with a degree in resource management is where a lot of staff start. They apply for the lowest paying jobs and take them in any park that hires them. So you could move anywhere just for the chance. Everyone else at that level is doing the same thing. It can take years of that before you get what we call your “home park” where you will stay and finish your career. A friend started at NPS with a master’s degree as a GS5 (terrible low pay) and did that for ten years going all over the country from park to park trying to start his career. He put up with a lot. He worked in deserts, island parks, where there was lots of snow, always moving and meeting new people. The last I spoke to him he was a GS11 supervisory Park Ranger (he started as a Guide). A lot of people work for him and he makes good money.


Another way in to NPS is to be a mili veteran, they are given hiring priority, automatically moved to the top. Also working for the Peace Corp, they get the same benefit.
 
I am of the opinion that it could be a benefit to tell a prospective employer that you appreciate predictability and routine in your work. Sometimes employers have trouble finding people to work in "boring" positions.
Telling them that you enjoy "boring" work can be a way of sharing your strength without explicitly stating that you are autistic.
 
I find work that's too repetitive very boring and I'd prefer to work somewhere where every day is different. Still doing the same sort of thing but not exactly the same, if you get what I mean.
Cleaning is extremely repetitive but the sort of cleaning that I do isn't. But the sort of cleaning job where you have to empty bins every day is extremely boring, because I feel like my work is never done. All the exact same work will be there again the next day like you've never done it, and I feel it's just a thankless job. Cleaning buses and coaches in the garage isn't as repetitive, as it's less repetitive and you don't always know what you're getting. If there's an oil spillage you clean it up, but oil spillages don't occur every day. Most of my tasks are like that. You never know what tasks you may have but at the same time you do.
With emptying bins and sweeping and mopping the same rooms is just very non-challenging and too predictable. That's OK for some people, but I have ADHD and so can become bored of too much predictability.
 
I find work that's too repetitive very boring and I'd prefer to work somewhere where every day is different. Still doing the same sort of thing but not exactly the same, if you get what I mean.
Cleaning is extremely repetitive but the sort of cleaning that I do isn't. But the sort of cleaning job where you have to empty bins every day is extremely boring, because I feel like my work is never done. All the exact same work will be there again the next day like you've never done it, and I feel it's just a thankless job. Cleaning buses and coaches in the garage isn't as repetitive, as it's less repetitive and you don't always know what you're getting. If there's an oil spillage you clean it up, but oil spillages don't occur every day. Most of my tasks are like that. You never know what tasks you may have but at the same time you do.
With emptying bins and sweeping and mopping the same rooms is just very non-challenging and too predictable. That's OK for some people, but I have ADHD and so can become bored of too much predictability.
I have that in a big way. The boredom thing is pretty debilitating for work reasons, as is the sensory overload of my autism. Also my extreme, immovable, morality. And location, I live pretty regionally in a small village without enough public transport.
 
I wash dishes and do light food prep in a school. I get help with washing dishes during lunch, so I don't feel overwhelmed. Any conversations I have are limited to the job I'm doing.
 

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