Darwin162
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There you go again. Bullying the smart people. One might think you are a tad envious of us.You sound like you are not that good at reasoning, whether or not you have high IQ.
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There you go again. Bullying the smart people. One might think you are a tad envious of us.You sound like you are not that good at reasoning, whether or not you have high IQ.
I understand how you feel but....maybe the word bully was not very diplomatic...I am a little bit of a savant on certain things but it comes at a price...it is not as wonderful as it sounds it cuts both directions.You sound like a bully
The neighbor boy a few doors down is diagnosed with Asperger's, he is much more disabled than I am, he cannot read and nothing they have tried seems to work. He is probably closer to classic autism than Asperger's in my opinion. But he does share a connection with me that he does not have with others. As has been said, it really is a spectrum. If we take the 3 level scale used in the current DSM, my therapist says on most days I am a level 1, but on my off days when I struggle or am overwhelmed I can get very close to a level 2 in my need for support. Whilest some Aspie's can manage on thier own, I cannot in some aspects. Should something happen to my wife, I have trustee's in place to help me manage money to keep bills paid and to help me keep the house in order/cleaned up. I would spend every time I have on trains, tractors and junk food if not for thier help. The house would go uncleaned till I was a wreck, then I would get overwhelmed trying to clean it up once it got to that point and meltdown. Mike
Ask for the old position you liked back, just say it better suited your personality or something. There is no point in taking a promotion that will ruin you.It is interesting. Both my boyfriend and I have been diagnosed. He back in 2010. Me more recently. We've been together 13yrs. Even worked at the same biotech companies. Twice.
The weird thing is...though he looks more akward than me, seems less comfortable in his own skin and less likely to socialize...it is me who struggles more.
I was diagnosed as bipolar, as my cluttering resembles pressured speech. And my involuntary mutism and meltdowns were attributed to depression.
Thing is...I was stable for years. But I kept getting promoted at work, and with each subsequent promotion, the expectation for me to work with others increased...and with the increased need to socialize, my behaviors began to increase in tandem.
I would wring my hands in meetings. I would trip over my words when my brain would get flooded with ideas...or I'd lose them all at once...and be incapable of speaking at all. And sometimes I'd meltdown mid-meeting, where I was normally able to make it to the bathroom first
My symptoms were so...noticeable, HR was periodically placing me on short-term disability. Sometimes for a week. Sometimes a month...to stabilize me. At one point, my doctor recommended ECT. I refused.
Finally, HR "strongly suggested" I go on long-term leave to get stable after several full meltdowns at work.
Which was a blessing and curse...cuz it was that which printed my new diagnosis.
But now I'm scared to return to work.
I seem good initially. I'm a good actress. You'd likely not know there's anything wrong with me when you first met me.
Yet I'm the one who is out of work right now.
I also went to my first autism support group recently, where I experienced feeling out of place. Even overdressed.
So...
But I've always felt like I've straddled every line. Like I've never quite fit in anywher,, so...it wasn't an unusual feeling
It is interesting. Both my boyfriend and I have been diagnosed. He back in 2010. Me more recently. We've been together 13yrs. Even worked at the same biotech companies. Twice.
The weird thing is...though he looks more akward than me, seems less comfortable in his own skin and less likely to socialize...it is me who struggles more.
I was diagnosed as bipolar, as my cluttering resembles pressured speech. And my involuntary mutism and meltdowns were attributed to depression.
Thing is...I was stable for years. But I kept getting promoted at work, and with each subsequent promotion, the expectation for me to work with others increased...and with the increased need to socialize, my behaviors began to increase in tandem.
I would wring my hands in meetings. I would trip over my words when my brain would get flooded with ideas...or I'd lose them all at once...and be incapable of speaking at all. And sometimes I'd meltdown mid-meeting, where I was normally able to make it to the bathroom first
My symptoms were so...noticeable, HR was periodically placing me on short-term disability. Sometimes for a week. Sometimes a month...to stabilize me. At one point, my doctor recommended ECT. I refused.
Finally, HR "strongly suggested" I go on long-term leave to get stable after several full meltdowns at work.
Which was a blessing and curse...cuz it was that which printed my new diagnosis.
But now I'm scared to return to work.
I seem good initially. I'm a good actress. You'd likely not know there's anything wrong with me when you first met me.
Yet I'm the one who is out of work right now.
I also went to my first autism support group recently, where I experienced feeling out of place. Even overdressed.
So...
But I've always felt like I've straddled every line. Like I've never quite fit in anywher,, so...it wasn't an unusual feeling
One thing that we tend to forget about attending autism support groups is that we are still meeting with people, and frankly, if I meet with groups of people, NT or otherwise, I feel uncomfortable. It is meeting with groups of people which brings discomfort - that's the bottom line for me. Support groups may not be helpful to many Aspies because they defeat the purpose for which they are formed, and they are artificial.
Why not request that you be placed at the level at which you feel most comfortable - that which involves less interaction?
Support groups may not be helpful to many Aspies because they defeat the purpose for which they are formed, and they are artificial.
Doctors still recommend ECT, and they still use it?! Grief, that was already archaic in the 1960's! Good for you that you refused it.
Ask for the old position you liked back, just say it better suited your personality or something. There is no point in taking a promotion that will ruin you.
They maybe can move the other people up one notch.
Good luck best wishes on everything. Mael
Maybe, some of us don't like being in groups. But you still got to wonder. If everybody in the world was an aspie. Would we still have a hard time socializing, or even getting together in groups? I still have to ask this question? Has being force to socializing to NT standards, somehow destroyed our natural ability to do aspie socializing? if that really exists or not? Because, I tend to find myself being afraid to express my feeling's, and I don't think this is it's an aspie thing as more as I think it a defensive thing, caused by the very fact that I can't trust NT's.
On the first part, I've come to realize what I was doing (as a biotech quality systems engineer) was not my purpose. And though it was difficult to experience things as they played out, it helped me to learn my true purpose. I found out I could paint in art therapy during a stint at a psych hospital. I found I could paint and ideas to write.
My painting and writings are here: theminxxx.com
I understand the name is probably too provocative, but I wanted the triple X to stand for my unrepentant Trinity:
X - Artist
X - Philosopher
X - Writer
& my Observation Log (aka Blog)
As I now "own" what makes me different...rather than constantly apologize for it.
On the second part, I completely agree; support groups in many respects defeats the purpose for what ails many Aspies and Auties. It's kinda ironic if you think about it
My background is in the sciences, hence my previous career in biotech.Great paintings and certainly a fantastic way to express your inner focus. There is a thread on this forum where you can post some of your paintings if you like - they may very well reach out to some who need to have something to relate to when they are unable to express themselves.
Of course Minx means different things to different people, but the triple X says it all. As you say, you want your name to identify who you are and if that is what it does then that is the truth you want out there.
Philosopher implies that you have done some studying in this discipline? That discipline is an elusive butterfly with no absolutes, and so one has to be confident of one's values, or it leads to baffling confusion, with constantly changing criteria of assessment and analysis.
Also, thank you for the recommendation. I will check it out. Do you know the specific link?can post some of your paintings if you like - they may very well reach out to some who need to have something to relate to when they are unable to express themselves.
Also, thank you for the recommendation. I will check it out. Do you know the specific link?