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A Weird Habit Of Mine

KevinMao133

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This will sound extremely weird but hear me out

I have a habit that most won’t understand: whenever I’m scrolling the internet, I use the private page

I have this thing where I don’t like being tracked and by using the private page, I’m not leaving any marks

I also have the tendency to delete whatever I just searched as well as my internet history

There’s a few pages I’m ok with going on, including this page but other than that, prefer keeping it on the low
 
You data is still viewable evenly using private browsing to others. It won’t store what you have viewed on your browser history but if you are connected to WiFi anywhere is entirely possible for others to see what you are browsing.

You need VPN to browse truly anonymously, it encrypts your data so others cannot see it.
 
You data is still viewable evenly using private browsing to others. It won’t store what you have viewed on your browser history but if you are connected to WiFi anywhere is entirely possible for others to see what you are browsing.

You need VPN to browse truly anonymously, it encrypts your data so others cannot see it.

Which explains why people use VPN to access dark web or highly secretive stuff
 
Which explains why people use VPN to access dark web or highly secretive stuff
A Normal VPN should be used by everyone really, it protects you from man in the middle attacks and people intercepting your data. Protects when doing online banking etc.

The dark web uses somthing called the TOR network.
 
Data logging.
Selling data to third parties.

Besides, once you sign up with email and card details for a subscription - your anonymity is lost before you've even used their services.

Ed
 
Data logging.
Selling data to third parties.

Besides, once you sign up with email and card details for a subscription - your anonymity is lost before you've even used their services.

Ed

You need to select a provider that keeps zero logs so if data is requested there is nothing to receive. You can also pay with crypto if you really want to?

The idea of a decent VPN is to stop others snooping on your data.

Edit: If you want true anonymity it’s the TOR network you are after.
 
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I don't tend to use the private page, and I do worry that I'm being tracked down when I look at an adult site (not porn or anything sexual, as I'm not into that). A pop up thing did come up once when I was on there saying Google is tracking me, but I wasn't sure if it was just false, as a way of getting me to tap on it and give my phone a virus.
 
@KevinMao133 What sort of information are you trying to hide and from who? Private mode browsing may or may not be sufficient. A VPN may or may not be sufficient. It really depends what you're concerned about specifically.
 
Ed is quite correct, and those sorts of security concerns are one of the issues that got me playing with Linux 20 years ago. Even if 3rd parties aren't tracking you Microsoft most certainly is.

My browser is also set to delete all cookies every time I close it, and I do close it in between going to different sites where I use a login. I don't need or want websites knowing what it is I was looking at before, be it what I was looking at on ebay or if I was just logged in to my bank. I do not wish to share that information, even little snippets of information such as which bank I use can be dangerous in the wrong hands.

If you really care about how much information you're giving out you should also try using Tor Browser, it has been specifically created for this purpose.

 
My browser is also set to delete all cookies every time I close it, and I do close it in between going to different sites where I use a login. I don't need or want websites knowing what it is I was looking at before
I don't think it's possible for a site to read another site's cookies is it?
 
I don't think it's possible for a site to read another site's cookies is it?
I was never sure just how much they can read, but here's a little easy experiment to try. Go to ebay and spend a little while looking at only one specific type of product, a camera for example, then log out and go to google and see what adverts google starts throwing up at you.

Then delete all cookies and go back to google again - no more adverts for cameras.
 
I was never sure just how much they can read, but here's a little easy experiment to try. Go to ebay and spend a little while looking at only one specific type of product, a camera for example, then log out and go to google and see what adverts google starts throwing up at you.

Then delete all cookies and go back to google again - no more adverts for cameras.
Ah, that's a subtle difference. The Ebay policy notes: "If you agree and click 'Accept all', we will also allow 23 third-party companies, who we partner with, to store cookies on your device"

So ebay is allowing google to store cookies. Ebay can't see those cookies. But google can. So then when you go to google's search, they can read their own cookies. And similarly, Google can't read any cookies that ebay stores.

Ebay and google are not sharing cookies.
 
I was never sure just how much they can read, but here's a little easy experiment to try. Go to ebay and spend a little while looking at only one specific type of product, a camera for example, then log out and

go to google and see what adverts google starts throwing up at you.

Then delete all cookies and go back to google again - no more adverts for cameras.

I recently bought some caviar with my credit card at a local store. The same day, I started getting pop up ads on my laptop for caviar. I assume the credit card company is sharing data about my purchases with Microsoft. I don't know any other reason why I would suddenly be targeted with caviar advertising.
 
I don't know any other reason why I would suddenly be targeted with caviar advertising.
It seems that a lot of common rules about cookies are only policy or convention rather than actual physical limitations and in many cases can be intercepted and read by third parties, I've just been doing some reading up about it.

At the end of the day I'm only human and I can only judge by the evidence presented to me. Too many examples such as the one you just provided have left me with little faith in the integrity of large corporations so I exercise a few simple precautions. My browser - Firefox - is set to delete all cookies and browsing history on close, so I close the browser between sessions and reopen it again. I get a lot less advertising than most people.
 
I recently bought some caviar with my credit card at a local store. The same day, I started getting pop up ads on my laptop for caviar. I assume the credit card company is sharing data about my purchases with Microsoft. I don't know any other reason why I would suddenly be targeted with caviar advertising.
Interesting to see what apps on your phone have access to the microphone, ads can be served off key phrases.
 
Not trying dismiss the actual experience you've had, but I think there's a big difference between what the technology is doing and what it looks like it's doing. Perhaps this is a moot point... if your experience is that you go to a store and buy caviar then suddenly you're seeing caviar ads online, it doesn't really matter exactly how it happens - it's still annoying and concerning. But in the interests of busting myths...

Credit card companies only share aggregated data, not personal data. Possibly it was geolocation that was the hook here. Your phone was near a shop that sells caviar. Profiling indicates that you're the sort of person who is likely to buy caviar. Bingo! Let's advertise caviar.

Cookies are not usually intercepted - they're encrypted by almost every website as standard making it impossible for a third party to intercept them (I'd be interested to see what you've been reading). Third parties get hold of the information because the party that created the cookie in the first place sells the data they collect with it.

Phones don't spy on your audio conversations. Phones often monitor speech constantly for specific purposes such as listening for wake words like "OK Google". Then the phone activates and you say something like "What's the weather like tomorrow at Fenway Park". That's recorded in exactly the same way as if you typed in that search. And then you get baseball ads. The phone isn't just spying on you and springing into action when you casually say "Boston Red Sox" to your neighbor.

Overall, profiling is way more detailed and accurate than our intuition would suggest. It might look like someone has shared personal data specifically about you and specifically about something you did or said, but actually companies are just looking at anonymous data, masses of it, and matching your profile against other profiles and then guessing (very accurately) what sort of thing you get up to and when. Even having said that, it's also true that no-one ever mentions the 400 times that they saw an irrelevant, inaccurate advert - only the one time the profiling got it absolutely spot on.

As I say, perhaps none of that is reassuring or relevant if the end result is that you can be targeted very specifically by ads anyway.

And if you distrust the companies who invent and use the tech, then nothing I say is going to be at all reassuring. But I have worked in this industry and understand at least some of the tech quite well.

To me there's a difference between super-accurate profiling, and the phone listening to and recording and passing on every word I say. The former is annoying but whatever. The latter would, I think, spark a massive backlash and a heap of lawsuits from, for example, these guys: Electronic Frontier Foundation

An example and very detailed white paper from EFF on the state of corporate internet surveillance:

 
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I found it spooky when a few years ago me and my husband went into Lidl, a supermarket we hardly ever visit, and we paid in cash, no cards at all, not even loyalty cards or coupons, just cash, then later that day I found an advertisement email from Lidl in my inbox, the first time I'd ever got an email from Lidl, and I didn't even take my phone to the store with me. So how did the internet know I went to Lidl that day, without being able to gather information from any cards or coupons? We gave NO details whatsoever, just paid in cash. Maybe the cameras in the parking lot saw our car registration number and got our information that way.
I wish it was the olden days where everything you did wasn't tracked down and your privacy got respected.
 

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