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What exactly is "normal?"

Welcome! :)

Normal is an stadistic concep, so in a population of white people, being black is not normal. And in a population of black people, being white is not normal.

Same goes with being fat, the political party you like, religion, hobbies, sexuality, the way we dress, our accent, values, our country of origin, the way you dance, age, facial structure, gender... all this things can be used to messure normality in an human social group.

Many social mamals do bully those who are not normal enougth to their standards. You can see that in wolves, dogs, cows, dolphins, monkeys...

Maybe humans do have many more categories to bully others, but at the end in most mamals group there are bosses (alphas), followers, and members who are even lower that followers.

The democracy thing of all being ecuals, same rigths, respect for all, lets include minorities, etc... Has never been seen in nature, and is not part of our biology either. So its great theorical concept but most of the time what apply is biology.

About people on the spectrum, the common feature we have is that for us, social skills do not come instinctively. If we are asked "How are you doing?" we may take it in a literal way and not inderstand the social intentions behind that, or how are we spected to answer, or when to answer, or in which tone to answer, or what body behavour use while answering, or how to adapt all those if we are asked by an alpha or by a follower or by a marginated person. Normal humans do know that in an instinctive way when they get to 10 years old.

We may need years of training to understand and mimic NT instinctive social skills, we can do that paying a lot of energy and get drained. High Functionality ASD may do it better while low Functionality ASD will have more problems or being unable.

Not having social skills is very high in the bully categories of any human group. The reason is that we Clash with alphas, followers and all the social structure of the group. So in order to maintain the structure of social group that human biology demands, the only place for us is out of the group or at a lower level. Only masking and camuflating or in exchange of a lot of work value can we aspire to be accepted as followers.

There goes another wall of text with info that may be useful or not. :confused:
 
I think others have answered this “normal” well but I wanted to reply to what you say here:
My biggest problem is probably sensory issues. There are certain fabrics of clothing I can tolerate but others will make me very uncomfortable.
I can’t wear certain fabrics because they feel too scratchy for me. It makes me feel extremely uncomfortable and overwhelmed if I can’t get it immediately off. I also can’t wear turtle neck sweaters because they feel like I am being strangled.

Welcome to the forum!
 
Hi everyone. I am new to this site. I am diagnosed with Asperger's disorder. Along with having Asperger's I am also transgender. I was assigned the gender male at birth but I live as a woman. In no way do I identify with being male. I have felt that way my whole life.

I mainly made this thread because I really do question what "normal" is or what a neurotypical person is. I am high functioning. My biggest problem is probably sensory issues. There are certain fabrics of clothing I can tolerate but others will make me very uncomfortable. If I am dressed in fabric that makes me very uncomfortable it has a very negative effect on my mood.

Being both transgender and having Asperger's is extremely difficult to overcome. With that being said. What exactly makes a person neurotypical as opposed to autistic anyway?
This is for the word normal from etymonline.com
c. 1500, "typical, common;" 1640s, in geometry, "standing at a right angle, perpendicular," from Late Latin normalis "in conformity with rule, normal," in classical Latin "made according to a carpenter's square," from norma "rule, pattern," literally "carpenter's square," a word of unknown origin (see norm). Meaning "conforming to common standards or established order or usage, regular, usual" is attested from 1828 but probably is older than the record [Barnhart].

Meaning "heterosexual" is by 1914. As a noun meaning "usual state or condition," from 1890 (in geometry as "a perpendicular" from 1727). Sense of "a normal person or thing" is attested by 1894. Normal school "training college for teachers" (1835) is a translation of French école normale (1794), a creation of the French Republic; the notion is of "serving to set a standard." The U.S. city of Normal, Illinois, was named 1857 for the normal school established there.

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The psychiatric world labels us as lacking in socialisation compared to a neurotypical oh the irony
 
I think others have answered this “normal” well but I wanted to reply to what you say here:

I can’t wear certain fabrics because they feel too scratchy for me. It makes me feel extremely uncomfortable and overwhelmed if I can’t get it immediately off. I also can’t wear turtle neck sweaters because they feel like I am being strangled.

Welcome to the forum!

War to clothe labels! Dont let any survive! :D

I have that issue too. :)
 
Just a philosophical cavern the likes of which is not healthy even to peer into! Steer clear of wrangling over word meanings if Socrates isn't around. Even he had a hard time with things like, "Justice" "Virtue" "Piety" "Beauty" and also just the idea of words themselves. If he could not define anything, I sure can't.
 
Personally I loathe using the "n" word. ;)

Something that best describes conformity- based on perception and not necessarily reality.
 
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I would rather revel in myself and am unabashedly enjoying who I am, now that I have perspective. Getting to that point has been a journey. Of course I have carved out relationships and interests that I enjoy.
 
Hi everyone. I am new to this site. I am diagnosed with Asperger's disorder. Along with having Asperger's I am also transgender. I was assigned the gender male at birth but I live as a woman. In no way do I identify with being male. I have felt that way my whole life.

I mainly made this thread because I really do question what "normal" is or what a neurotypical person is. I am high functioning. My biggest problem is probably sensory issues. There are certain fabrics of clothing I can tolerate but others will make me very uncomfortable. If I am dressed in fabric that makes me very uncomfortable it has a very negative effect on my mood.

Being both transgender and having Asperger's is extremely difficult to overcome. With that being said. What exactly makes a person neurotypical as opposed to autistic anyway?
As far as I see it, ‘normal’ means that you are mentally and emotionally operating on a baseline derived from the minds of people that are just as damaged (in some cases, more so) than those of us searching for answers.
 
Hi everyone. I am new to this site. I am diagnosed with Asperger's disorder. Along with having Asperger's I am also transgender. I was assigned the gender male at birth but I live as a woman. In no way do I identify with being male. I have felt that way my whole life.

Hi and Welcome @WaterLily
Normal is the domain of the majority which is used by them to define those who are other (than them).
I love the idea of a world where the majority is ND and NT is the abberation
 
No, Waterlily, you were not "born as a man" but "live as a woman". You are just Waterlily.

Precisely!!

Over the years, I have come to realize that everyone is an individual. And, every individual on this planet; every individual that has ever lived - regardless of species, is unique.
It has also become clear to me that categorizing people is stereotyping. And stereotyping leads to bigotry. And bigotry is a very ugly word and a very ugly element of society.

Yes, I am autistic. I fit in that "group". but that has nothing to do with my value. It just means I have traits - strengths and weaknesses loosely fitting others labeled as autistic. I definitely have struggles due to my autism, but I have struggles from other issues as well. It is also important to know that everyone, that is; every individual in the world has struggles. We are all unique, thus we all have different struggles, but, we ALL have struggles.

With everyone being unique, that means everyone is valuable in a particular way. I like the take-a-way message presented by the movie Hugo. Hugo explained that the universe is like a huge machine composed of zillions of parts all performing a specific purpose and that all machines only have the necessary parts. Machines never have extraneous parts. Thus, every person has a unique, important purpose in the universe. No one is extraneous.

Envying and trying to be like someone else distracts from your unique purpose. Your unique purpose will still happen even if you don't know exactly what it is. It's just important to know that your purpose is unique and important. It is easy to think someone is "better" than you because you can only see the internal part of your life. Like trying to see a forest from within the middle of the forest. You can't see what the forest looks like, only the trees. You can, however, see the "forest" of other people because you see them from their outside, but you can't see their inside (trees). So, it is easy to think their "forest" is better than your "trees", but you must realize that that view is not based on a common denominator.

What exactly makes a person neurotypical as opposed to autistic anyway?

I found this forum several months after realizing I am autistic. It feels good to communicate with others in the same "group" with hopes to learn more about me. Well that certainly has happened, but equally important, I am learning about non-autistic's, which is proving to be very surprising and most valuable. I think it is too complicated to define in just a sentence or two. My advice is just follow this forum. The the answers will materialize over time.
 
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Ken I enjoyed reading what you wrote. Very good, information cannot be destroyed, every thing any one of us has ever done is saved by the universe for what purpose, who knows, that's the big question.
 
I must be a ninja I eat vegan pizza the cheese is almost liquid drinking pizza ninja skills ✌
That sounds like a book "Drinking Pizza. My Ninja Journey into Liquid Vegan Cheese or the Unintentional Trancendetal Experience of Food"
 

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