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Shutdowns - anyone experienced any of these?

LilyJo

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I apologise if there is a similar thread elsewhere. I came across this article which describes various shutdown phenomenon: shutdown (thing) by Zifendorf - Everything2.com I was particularly fascinated by the bit on partial shutdowns to do with being able to write but then not read what you'd just written. I wondered if anyone had actually experienced any of these? I know I've had the misfortune to encounter many of them! LJ

Below is the descriptions of partial shutdowns in case the link doesn't work. There is much more info on the link though.

Partial Shutdowns
Sensory shutdowns involve total or partial loss of the ability to understand sensory information. The information is still received, but the person doesn't understand it. Visual shutdown is known by many autistic people as meaning-blindness, and auditory shutdown is called meaning-deafness. In visual shutdown, information is taken in through the eyes, but some part of understanding that information doesn't happen. The person may be able to understand shape, color, and distance enough to navigate, but unable to understand what objects he is looking at. He might be unable to consciously perceive anything visually at all. He may be able to take in less visual information than usual, seeing only small parts of things at a time. And he may see some distortions in his vision. Other perceptual shutdowns resemble this, but in the other senses. In these shutdowns, the senses remain technically intact, but the ability to interpret them is lost. They can resemble theagnosias or pure sight.

Receptive language shutdowns happen when a person loses previous ability to understand some amount of receptive language. Sometimes it only happens in one sense, so that someone can read but not understand speech, or vice versa. Sometimes a person may be able to understand speech with a regular rhythm, such as music, but unable to understand ordinary speech. Sometimes it involves all language coming in from outside, regardless of the sense or the way the language is happening. Text looks like meaningless garble, or the person may be able to read aloud the words but find no meaning in them. Speech sounds like noise or what Donna Williams calls blah-blah, or the person may be able to understand a few individual words but not put them together. Words in general come in, but they feel like they hover around in your brain finding nothing to connect with. Receptive language shutdown doesn't necessarily imply expressive language shutdown, which can lead to interesting situations like writing complicated articles on shutdown while being unable to read them. These kind of shutdowns can resemble the receptive aphasias.

Expressive language shutdowns involve losing the ability to come up with or use speech and writing. This may involve increased difficulty with word-finding, syntax, grammar, or the ability to use words -- or at times any symbols -- in any way at all. It may result in telegraphic speech or writing: "Words gone. Need time think." These kinds of shutdowns can resemble the expressive aphasias.

Speech shutdown occurs when a person becomes unable to use some or all functional speech. She may or may not be capable of vocalizing, singing, echolalia, or even seemingly normal speech on a few narrow topics. Speech shutdown does not always entail the loss of expressive language, and a person experiencing it may be able to type or write. Someone may have immense word-finding difficulties when using speech but none at all when writing, or may be able to discuss a broader range of topics in writing than they can in speech. Despite Tony Attwood's unfortunate wording, speech shutdown is not the same as selective mutism because it need not be due to fear or any other emotion.

Motor shutdowns involve losing the ability to deal with some aspect of voluntary movement. A person experiencing this kind of shutdown may or may not have trouble with automatic, triggered movements in response to a familiar form of stimulation, but be unable to form his own very easily. He may become clumsier when trying his own movements, he may get the wrong movement altogether when he tries to do something, or he may simply be slowed down, sometimes to the point of immobility. He may be able to move if physically assisted, or move one small part of his body but have trouble with others. While this is happening, he may or may not still be moving in repetitive or automatic ways. Motor shutdowns can resemble dyspraxia or apraxia.

Other partial shutdowns can involve loss of memory, sense of time, emotional perception, sense of self or other, or various specific aspects of thinking. What they have in common is that they only involve a partial loss in functioning. Often they will bear at least a superficial resemblance to a number of cognitive difficulties that tend to have Greek names starting in dys- or a-: aphasia, dysphasia, apraxia, dyspraxia, anomia, agraphia, dysgraphia, alexia, dyslexia, hyperlexia,alexithymia, agnosia, and so forth.
 
I've never heard of partial shutdowns before. I don't have full shutdowns, but the expressive language partial shutdowns seem familiar.
Thanks for link - good food for thought.
 
I think I experience a lot of these different types of partial shutdowns. I would go into more detail but can't right now (Possibly expressive language shutdown - I usually have that while I have a migraine and I'm kind of recovering from a migraine at the moment).
 
How long do these last? I sometimes have brief periods when I blank out and don't take in or register information, but they usually only last a few seconds.
 
Progster I'm not sure. I just found the information and was fascinated: brains are amazing and unpredictable things. I too have blanks that last a few secs. Psych thought it was another type of dissociation? But I have that as a separate problem too!

Get well soon Axeman.
 
I'm not sure that I have shutdowns... or if I do, they are mild. I have periods of overload when my mind really aches and I can't take in any more information, I become sluggish and slow and begin to lose my ability to speak, I don't articulate well at all. At that point I know I must stop what I'm doing and rest. Then I feel very tired and sleepy. But I don't know if this is a mild shutdown, the start of one, or just overload.
 
I've never had a memory shutdown, or a full body shutdown. I have had partial shutdowns in some of the other areas. Some times I will hear somebody talking, and I'll understand it, but it's not registering fully that I should be responding to it. Sometimes mutism will hit, but it's rare. Sometimes I'll have a motor malfunction.

I'm not sure that I have shutdowns... or if I do, they are mild. I have periods of overload when my mind really aches and I can't take in any more information, I become sluggish and slow and begin to lose my ability to speak, I don't articulate well at all. At that point I know I must stop what I'm doing and rest. Then I feel very tired and sleepy. But I don't know if this is a mild shutdown, the start of one, or just overload.
Isn't overload a type of shutdown? Much in the same way when you overtask a computer and it just shuts off?
 
I've never had a memory shutdown, or a full body shutdown. I have had partial shutdowns in some of the other areas. Some times I will hear somebody talking, and I'll understand it, but it's not registering fully that I should be responding to it. Sometimes mutism will hit, but it's rare. Sometimes I'll have a motor malfunction.

This happens to me quite a bit. This happens when I'm deeply focused on something, or I'm wrapped up in my personal thoughts, and while I may be aware of a person speaking, I don't process the speech and don't know what they said. Sometimes I don't hear at all and a person has to say my name two or three times before defocus and respond. I thought that this was something normal and common to all people, then I read in a book about sensory processing that the brain of autistic people can often learn to protect itself from overload by 'monochanneling,' where they exist in one sensory channel only and don't process or integrate information coming from other senses. Temple Grandin mentions this in "Thinking in Pictures". I think that happens to me - if I'm listening to someone I don't take in visual information, and I can't swap between the channels quickly either.

Isn't overload a type of shutdown? Much in the same way when you overtask a computer and it just shuts off?

I'm not sure, what I experience doesn't seem nearly as severe as that described in the article in the OP. I've had a couple of experiences similar to those described, but I can recognise the symptoms of overload and usually manage to stop what I'm doing and rest before they get to that stage. That kind of thing only happens when I'm staying at someone's house, for example, and I'm unable to regulate or control things going on around me. Constant noise, or continued socialising will cause me to crash - meaning that I feel I can't continue, my mind hurts and I can no longer think, I feel extremely drowsy and need to isolate myself. But there again, this could just be overload rather than a shutdown, because I can move, I can still hear people. I can't think to speak, though. I don't know if this is a true shutdown or not - it's more common for me to melt down in reaction to overload and stress rather than shut down.
 
A few of my comments on this issue:

I have very few meltdowns, being far more prone to shutdowns. But yes indeed, when I have a meltdown they're absolutely a cumulative effect of many issues at one time.

This reminds me much of the dynamics and considerations of sleep-walking of others. Something I've witnessed and thought was pretty strange or embarrassing at times, but nothing really serious. Although if you leave your house I know bad things can happen. But you're talking about prolonged shutdowns...not sleep-walking. I just cannot recall an instance of my own shutdowns where I totally lost contact with everything around me, including my own physical senses. I can only say that I prefer going into shutdowns rather than any public meltdowns. But then I also see a shutdown as a process of regeneration...not necessarily a bad thing at all. I've just come to see it as nature's way of us dealing with stress the best we can under certain circumstances. But to stop the process voluntarily? Hmmm....that would be news to me.

It could mean a number of things in the case of your significant other. It isn't that we are patently anti-social. We just do better with people in relatively small doses. Even then, positive social encounters with complete strangers or friends can still be mentally and emotionally exhausting for us. When it comes to couples it seems almost an optimal situation for having a caring NT partner to an Aspie who is willing to act as their "wingman". Or "interpreter" to keep them out of trouble with NTs who are unaware of autism issues.Otherwise quite often the world beyond our front door can be a very hostile place in so many ways that are meaningless to most Neurotypicals. It shapes us into being very defensive beings.

Where any social encounter, or just being around lots of people can seem threatening at times. Even a total stranger approaching us to ask the time might seem completely menacing to some Aspies. In this regard for some, a potential meltdown or shutdown might always be "just around the next corner".

So yeah, to those Aspies who have their special "wingman", I can see how they wouldn't want to leave home without them. When ya got your own personal "wingman", you don't need an American Express card! ;) And for those of us who are perpetually alone...it's just that much harder. :eek:
 

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