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Regarding Ravens

Rodafina

Hopefully Human
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Shall we pay tribute to the mesmerizing mighty raven? Can we create The Raven Tome here?



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1. Ravens are extremely smart.

When it comes to animal intelligence, these birds rate up there with chimpanzees and dolphins. In one logic test, a raven had to reach a hanging piece of food by pulling up a bit of the string, anchoring it with its talon, and repeating until the food was in reach. Many ravens got the food on the first try, some within 30 seconds. If a raven knows another raven is watching it hide its food, it will pretend to put the food in one place while really hiding it in another. Since the other ravens are smart too, this only works sometimes. In the wild, ravens have pushed rocks on people to keep them from climbing to their nests, played dead beside a beaver carcass to scare other ravens away from the feast, and stolen customers’ packaged meats right out of their carts.

2. Ravens can imitate human speech.

They also mimic other noises, like car engines, toilets flushing, and animal and bird calls. Ravens have been known to imitate wolves or foxes to attract them to carcasses that the raven isn’t capable of breaking open. When the wolf is done eating, the raven gets the leftovers.

3. In the past, some European cultures viewed ravens as evil in disguise.

Many European cultures took one look at this large black bird with an intense gaze and thought it was evil in the flesh … er, feathers. In France, people believed ravens were the souls of wicked priests, while crows were wicked nuns. In Germany, ravens were the incarnation of damned souls or sometimes Satan himself. In Sweden, ravens that croaked at night were thought to be the souls of murdered people who didn’t have proper Christian burials. And in Denmark, people believed that night ravens were exorcized spirits, and you’d better not look up at them in case there was a hole in the bird’s wing, because you might look through the hole and turn into a raven yourself.

4. Ravens appear in many of the world’s mythologies.

Cultures from Tibet to Greece have seen the raven as a messenger for the gods. Celtic goddesses of warfare often took the form of ravens during battles. The Viking god, Odin, had two ravens named Hugin (“thought”) and Munin (“memory”), which flew around the world every day and reported back to Odin every night about what they saw. Chinese myths said ravens caused bad weather in the forests to warn people that the gods were going to pass by. And many Native American peoples consider the raven a sly trickster who was involved in the creation of the world.

5. Ravens love to play.

Ravens have been observed in Alaska and Canada using snow-covered roofs as slides. In Maine, they have been seen rolling down snowy hills. They often play keep-away with other animals like wolves, otters, and dogs. Ravens even make toys—a rare animal behavior—by using sticks, pinecones, golf balls, or rocks to play with each other or by themselves. And sometimes they just taunt or mock other creatures because it’s funny.

6. Ravens do weird things with ants.

They lie in anthills and roll around so the ants swarm on them, or they chew the ants up and rub their guts on their feathers. The scientific name for this is “anting.” Some songbirds, crows, and jays do it too. The behavior is not well understood. Theories about its purpose range from the ants acting as an insecticide and fungicide for the bird, to ant secretions soothing a molting bird’s skin, to the whole performance being a mild addiction. One thing seems clear, though: anting feels great if you’re a bird.

7. Ravens use “hand” gestures.

It turns out that ravens make “very sophisticated nonvocal signals,” according to researchers. In other words, they gesture to communicate. A study in Austria found that ravens point with their beaks to indicate an object to another bird, just as we do with our fingers. They also hold up an object to get another bird’s attention. This is the first time researchers have observed naturally occurring gestures in any animal other than primates.

8. Ravens are adaptable to different environments.

Evolutionarily speaking, the deck is stacked in the raven’s favor. They can live in a variety of habitats, from snow to desert to mountains to forests. They are scavengers with a varied diet that includes fish, meat, seeds, fruit, carrion, and garbage. They are not above tricking animals out of their food—one raven will distract the other animal, for example, and the other will steal its food. They have few predators and live a long time: 17 years in the wild and up to 40 years in captivity.

9. Ravens roam around in teenage gangs.

Ravens mate for life and live in pairs in a fixed territory. When young ravens reach adolescence, they leave home and join gangs, like every human mother’s worst nightmare. These flocks of young birds live and eat together until they mate and pair off. Interestingly, living among teenagers seems to be stressful for the raven. Scientists have found higher levels of stress hormones in teenage raven droppings than in the droppings of mated adults. It’s never easy being a teenage rebel.

10. Ravens show empathy for each other.

Despite their mischievous nature, ravens seem capable of feeling empathy. When a raven’s friend loses in a fight, they will seem to console the losing bird. They also remember birds they like and will respond in a friendly way to certain birds for at least three years after seeing them. (But they also hold grudges.) Although a flock of ravens is called an unkindness, the birds appear to be anything but.


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There is a road near here called "Ravenwood."

It always has seemed to me that using a specially
*Victorian*/*gothic romance* tone of voice
is necessary to say "Ravenwood" properly.
 
I see the raven's made
Her nest in your eyes
She's got you thinking that
Her love is a prize
And you'll go under from
The weight of her lies
As the raven flies
As the raven flies

She'll bring you stories
That just never sound true
She'll bring you secrets
That were never meant for you
And just as you come round
She'll send you back through
She's in love with you
She's in love with you

Darker, darker
Don't let her talk her way
Into you
Lonely, lonely
You know she's only
No good for you

I see the raven's made
Her nest in your eyes
She's got you thinking that
Her love is a prize
And you'll go under from
The weight of her lies
As the raven flies
As the raven flies
As the raven flies
As the raven flies
 
Ravens are somewhat rare around here but there is a small population of them (common ravens, corvus corax) where I live. I find them on my roof sometimes.
They can actually talk! They can make lots of different sounds and even mimic human speech.

They look like this. I think they're actually quite cute. One of my favorite birds.
(Photo from Google)

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I saw my first raven on a vacation to the Grand Canyon. We pulled into a parking lot with a lot of trees and a nice shady park. Before getting out of the car, I said to my wife, "Look at that! What kind of bird is that?" It was big, the size of a chicken. I didn't want to get out at first because I didn't want to scare it away. But then I saw other people walking by and the bird saw them and paid little attention. I got out and was surprised how close it let me get. It just regarded me as it would another bird. In fact it regarded me as other people regards other people. Then I saw more of them around. My wife took a picture and quizzed the internet and found it was a raven. I was totally fascinated! It had such presence and cognition. Very human like. It was a person bird.

Never seen any ravens where I live, but there are a few crows. They have a flight path over our house, but never come down. We put bird food out for whoever wants some, which includes bluejays, morning doves, cardinals grackles, etc., but disappointingly, the crows never visit. Any ideas how to invite crows?
 
"To first attract crows, you will want something noticeable, like peanuts in the shell. Once they become regulars in your yard, you can use a wider variety of foods, including kibbled pet food or meat scraps. Crows can eat a lot of food, so don't be afraid to spread more if they eat it all."
How to Attract Crows: 8 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow

My friend who lives 3 miles from here has open space rather than woods
and there is a batch of crows that's been visiting her yard for five years
now. She mostly puts out whole corn and some black sunflower seeds.
 
"To first attract crows, you will want something noticeable, like peanuts in the shell. Once they become regulars in your yard, you can use a wider variety of foods, including kibbled pet food or meat scraps. Crows can eat a lot of food, so don't be afraid to spread more if they eat it all."
How to Attract Crows: 8 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow

My friend who lives 3 miles from here has open space rather than woods
and there is a batch of crows that's been visiting her yard for five years
now. She mostly put out whole corn and some black sunflower seeds.
Thanks!
Actually, I have been putting out in-shell peanuts and sunflower seeds. However, the bluejays always takes all of the peanuts in just minutes, long before the crows cross our path.
I guess I need to time when the crows fly across and try to match that time with putting out the peanuts.

Thanks for the WikiHow!
 
"A regular schedule of feeding helps. Crows seem to most actively feed early in the morning and then again in the afternoon, with a kind of casual foraging in between. The other thing to note is that crows love water. They need to drink a lot and they love dunking food in shallow water and bathing in it in good weather. If you locate a birdbath near your feeding station, you are likely to see a lot more crow (and other bird) activity, particularly if there is no other water source in the immediate vicinity."

"Blue jays will rob you blind of peanuts and other seeds. Squirrels will join in the party. Cats will show up if you put out kibbled cat or dog food, which is one of the best and cheapest of crow foods. And small birds of all sorts will also get in the act.

Crow enjoying Nathan's cocktail franks, 12/4/8.
Although it’s not their first choice, crows will take food from a raised, open platform." Food and Feeding Habits of the American Crow, Corvus brachyrhynchos.
 
Yep, we also have a large birdbath that the the bluejays love to bathe in. There is also a group of honey bees that drink from the birdbath. However, we don't put the food next to the birdbath. Perhaps we need to do that.

Thanks for all the info.
 
Shall we pay tribute to the mesmerizing mighty raven? Can we create The Raven Tome here?
You must remember our Magpies from your time here, they're also a member of the same family. Highly intelligent, beautiful song voice. They can also mimic human speech. They have excellent facial recognition which is important to remember during nesting time, then they become quite aggressive and will attack people they don't know and people that they do know but don't like.

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You must remember our Magpies from your time here, they're also a member of the same family. Highly intelligent, beautiful song voice. They can also mimic human speech. They have excellent facial recognition which is important to remember during nesting time, then they become quite aggressive and will attack people they don't know and people that they do know but don't like.

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I have a magpie nest in my garden and they are very special birds. Very smart birds. And when magpie kids jump out of the nest and run around on the ground, they are hilarious. :) I have seen them try to eat my gardenhose and then they tried to steal it.
 
In the north of Australia the crows have developed white or pale blue eyes, I think in response to the overly bright sunshine. In the south of the country their eyes are black like in the rest of the world.

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I have a magpie nest in my garden and they are very special birds.
What we call a magpie here is an entirely different species but also very special. Ours are actually black and white crows, the same size as a crow, not a small bird.

This one is a baby fresh out of the nest:

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You must remember our Magpies from your time here, they're also a member of the same family. Highly intelligent, beautiful song voice. They can also mimic human speech. They have excellent facial recognition which is important to remember during nesting time, then they become quite aggressive and will attack people they don't know and people that they do know but don't like.

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Yes, indeed, I remember! They trained us to walk a certain path with our hands up in the air because the magpies there were known to attack, but they would go for the highest point on a person. It could’ve been another joke on the Seppo Americans, so they could see us all running down the path with our hands flying in the air.

I had a nice experience with a magpie called Half Beak in the student housing corners where I stayed. This bird actually had half of his beak missing, most of the top part was gone, so he was very recognizable. He was a master at breaking into the flats and 50% of the mornings when I came out of my room, Half Beak would be there in the hallway, just looking around, inspecting things. I never actually fed him, but it seemed like he was always hopeful. We would chat for a moment and then he would hop down the hall, go back outside and fly away.
 
Tricks for not getting swooped at:

Be a friend. You don't have to feed them all the time or anything, throw them a couple of scraps just once and the whole family will remember you, especially if you throw scraps to the babies. (they eat meat)

Don't wear a hat. Many animals including many human babies get stressed by hats for some reason. Lots more people have been getting seriously attacked since bicycle helmets have become compulsory.

Put highly reflective sunglasses on the back of your head. Magpies attack in pairs, one will hover in front of you to attract your attention while the other hits you in the back of the head. If there's another set of "eyes" on the back of your head it confuses them.
 
That's a pair of very young ones, playing. Their back's are still grey. As they get older it turns white. They live in family units, both parents, this year's babies and last year's teenagers.
 
When I lived next to the bay, there were a group of Wood storks that stayed around the yard most of the day.

One day I was sitting outside reading the collection of Edgar Allen Poe, when they started gathering around. I started reading out loud the Quote the Raven Nevermore
story and the storks formed a circle around me, sit down on their rumps and
were fascinated listening.
They came back at 3 pm every day and sit in their circle waiting for me to read to them.

That animal connection again. Especially birds.
Or maybe they liked the Raven Nevermore!

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