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Your experience of Meltdowns

Divrom

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I'm asking for your personal experiences, not academic discussion...

How often do you have meltdowns?

What do they feel like?

How long do they last?

Do you manage to control/direct them at all?

Ever happened at work? Or anywhere dangerous, etc?

What kind of things set them off?


I'm asking because I have a particularly upsetting and violent meltdown a few days a go. I've not felt right since.
 
How often do you have meltdowns? About 1x/month

What do they feel like? Like someone yanked out my batteries, unplugged my charger cord & I've completely powered down.

How long do they last? From an hour to an entire day, overnight & into the next day. I become either a total zombie or catatonic.

Do you manage to control/direct them at all? Seldom. When I feel it coming over me, I can sometimes yank myself back from the brink.

Ever happened at work? Or anywhere dangerous, etc? Yep! Zoned out once while driving, Zoned out while cutting carrots & cut my hand

What kind of things set them off? Sensory overload, someone who keeps blabbing at me & won't go away, too many demands in my day & on my time.
 
Thanks for answering, Soup. I guess I should answer my own questions...

How often do you have meltdowns? Um, between 2-6 a year?

What do they feel like? A bit like a cross between a fit, a panic attack and a tantrum.

How long do they last? Well, previously, I would say 5-45 minutes. An average of 10-15 minutes. However, although my last meltdown was mainly 30 mins in the 'fit' phase, I've felt spaced-out post-meltdown for at least 24 hours.

Do you manage to control/direct them at all? Not really. I often feel like I'm inside looking out. I said to someone it feels like I'm a passenger on a ship in a violent storm. However, in the last one, I collapsed on the floor at the end, managing to twist myself to the side so I didn't collapse on the exercise bike. I was surprised I could control that!

Ever happened at work? Or anywhere dangerous, etc? Never at work. Sometimes, I've had to excuse myself from the dinner table so the kids didn't see. Once happened at a Casino, but it just resulted in me almost intentionally losing ?200.

I can almost always sense when I'm getting close to one. If I'm in the right frame of mind, I can then get somewhere safe, or manage to relax enough to avoid it.

What kind of things set them off? For me, it's always sensory overload. Last one was lots of voices at once, plus later not being able to cope with a texture in my clothing.
 
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What do they feel like? Like someone yanked out my batteries, unplugged my charger cord & I've completely powered down.

How long do they last? From an hour to an entire day, overnight & into the next day.

Some people make the (artificial) distinction between a "Meltdown" and a "Shutdown". It sounds like what you've described would fit into the Shutdown category.

It sounds like you close in on yourself, whereas I have this external burst of negative energy.
 
I think so too, Divrom. Many things contribute to whether a person tends to melt down (explode) or shut down (implode). From socialization processes (like differences in genderization) to cultural norms, religious beliefs, our unique personality...In the end, it amounts to a similar process occurring in the person for similar reasons. Sensory overload seems to be the common denominator here. I've never had one of those loud tears, rage, throwing stuff flip-out melt-downs. Even as a toddler, my mother says I never threw tantrums. I remember shutting down as an 11 yr old. I had one of those record players with 2 speakers. I'd put on a record, lie on my back on my back on the floor with my hood up & dark glasses on. I'd place a speaker on either side of my head (not blaring too loudly but loud enough to drown out any other sounds) & lie there for hours, unmoving like a corpse. From the inside, I'd feel detached from the entire world & like I was floating & swaying above my body.
 
How often do you have meltdowns? About 1x/month

What do they feel like? Like someone yanked out my batteries, unplugged my charger cord & I've completely powered down.

How long do they last? From an hour to an entire day, overnight & into the next day. I become either a total zombie or catatonic.

Do you manage to control/direct them at all? Seldom. When I feel it coming over me, I can sometimes yank myself back from the brink.

Ever happened at work? Or anywhere dangerous, etc? Yep! Zoned out once while driving, Zoned out while cutting carrots & cut my hand

What kind of things set them off? Sensory overload, someone who keeps blabbing at me & won't go away, too many demands in my day & on my time.


To zone out while driveing is normal to me.... that is as long as I am on a farmilliar rout.
 
I am interested in reading the replys to this thread Divron. I am sort of new to Asperger's and autism and havn't quite gotten what meltdown are yet.
 
I rarely have meltdowns. But for anyones convenience;

How often do you have meltdowns? Maybe once a year or so, but I've had a few years with nothing going on. As a kid... daily until I had some anger management classes.

What do they feel like? Set phasers to kill... I'm not in a good mood and most likely a hazard to others. On the other hand, I kinda enjoy the sheer bloodrush of agression. Just not on a regular basis. Maybe it's just as therapeutic for me, as crying is for others.

How long do they last? Anywhere from 5 minutes to a day.

Do you manage to control/direct them at all? I'm best left alone then, which makes me rage a bit. Probably cause havoc a bit. Punched a hole in a concrete wall once (and actually thought, when doing so, that because of the feeling, my hand had been shattered... but in fact the wall gave away), once tore a door of it's hinges. So quite often I'm just left alone for a bit, hope I don't leave a path of destruction that's to problematic. I remember years ago I'd hurl anything around including computers, televisions and whatever I had around. At some point I realized that breaking more of my stuff will get me in a vicious circle since I wont have any way to distract myself and calm down anymore... aside from monetary factors to repair/replace it.

Ever happened at work? Or anywhere dangerous, etc? I don't get out that much, and I especially don't get out if I don't feel that great. I know things can and will get on my backside within seconds. Again; as a kid I had frequent issues in school. I'd get into fights a lot, ended up smashing windows and wrecking more than I should.

I do know that I can go from 0 to violent when pushed wrong, so in a way that's why I try to steer clear from certain situations. I rather just walk away than stick around. I haven't been in a lot of situations where I wasn't able to get out quickly to avoid inherent danger to others. I do know when I feel it's coming up and I gently try to make it clear... I do have a lot of patience (which probably also is a reason why I don't have them as frequent), but at some point I'm done with being patient. Hence, I'll warn once, I'll warn twice... I don't warn thrice.

What kind of things set them off? Nothing specific. It's a combination of things. Being in a highly sensory sensitive mood, just not feeling that great, getting **** from people, not getting done what I need to get done (or just not getting what I want) and the list goes on. But I can put most of it in perspective well enough to just take a break from those issues and try again later. I'm not that volatile in general.
 
Mine are fairly harmless but major fits of rage. The trigger once was a valve in my tyre that kept popping back through the hole as I was wet, in the dark and trying to fix a puncture. My behaviour then becomes very unpleasant as I get worked up. Seems as if what upsets me becomes a focal point where I have to win the battle but also get very frustrated in the process. They are essentially tantrums but always directed at things, such as tyres, objects, something I may have tripped over, for example. Or even queues or delays.
Sometimes I wonder if my shirt will pop and I'll turn green.


I'm asking for your personal experiences, not academic discussion...

How often do you have meltdowns?

What do they feel like?

How long do they last?

Do you manage to control/direct them at all?

Ever happened at work? Or anywhere dangerous, etc?

What kind of things set them off?


I'm asking because I have a particularly upsetting and violent meltdown a few days a go. I've not felt right since.
 
I think so too, Divrom. Many things contribute to whether a person tends to melt down (explode) or shut down (implode). From socialization processes (like differences in genderization) to cultural norms, religious beliefs, our unique personality...In the end, it amounts to a similar process occurring in the person for similar reasons. Sensory overload seems to be the common denominator here. I've never had one of those loud tears, rage, throwing stuff flip-out melt-downs.
I'm like Soup, although I did have tantrums as a child. As an adult, I seem to turn it inward. During periods when it goes on for days, a dark cloud of depression can set in. During shorter spells, I can withdraw for an hour or several. Although I would prefer to be alone during those times, in some cases I can shut the world out and withdraw when surrounded by people as long as it's not too noisy.

As for frequency, I've never paid attention, but I do notice that it has everything to do with how social I've had to be or how much sensory stimulation I've had to endure.
 
I have meltdowns but they do not last that long.

They are usually triggered by ruminating thoughts or sensory over-exposure.

It can feel like my skull/brain is collapsing in on itself and I have no control over my emotions (or anything else). Like Soup states, I tend to "implode", not explode.

It usually ends up with me sitting on the bed with my hands on my forehead, my head lowered. It takes all I can do to get out of this state but it eventually passes.
 
@ Smith: I wondered about that myself, so I checked it over time. Sometimes, the shut-downs would be a week apart then at others it would go for weeks. I guess monthly is more of an average frequency because some months I might skip over without one & then have 2 in the same week. I really have a low tolerance for people chitter-chattering at me & since my elderly parents live here downstairs, I get too much. My father is older than my mother & he's quite deaf so she comes upstairs, sees me alone & figures I want company no matter how many times I insist that I want to be left alone. Senseless face to face or telephone rambling drives me batty. On the positive side, she stopped getting too close to me & touching me as she rambles. That only took a good 3 decades to accomplish & I hope it lasts!
 
How often do you have meltdowns? Every so often

What do they feel like? Rage or just debilitating sadness and tears or just not being able to leave the house or leave my bed.

How long do they last? Anything from seconds to hours, with the crying it can last up to days but in varying strengths. Like waves, they come and go.

Do you manage to control/direct them at all? Not sure, haven't been able to work out a good way of battling it, the only thing I can do at the mo is just try to mentally talk myself through it.

Ever happened at work? Or anywhere dangerous, etc? Yep, I find myself telling myself to either jump and not jump under a train / bus / car etc nearly every day.

What kind of things set them off? People who talk over me constantly, people who refuse to believe what I am saying, when I'm told I am wrong when I know I am right and lots of other things that will clog up the post haha
 
How often do you have meltdowns? Every so often

What do they feel like? Rage or just debilitating sadness and tears or just not being able to leave the house or leave my bed.

How long do they last? Anything from seconds to hours, with the crying it can last up to days but in varying strengths. Like waves, they come and go.

Do you manage to control/direct them at all? Not sure, haven't been able to work out a good way of battling it, the only thing I can do at the mo is just try to mentally talk myself through it.

Ever happened at work? Or anywhere dangerous, etc? Yep, I find myself telling myself to either jump and not jump under a train / bus / car etc nearly every day.

What kind of things set them off? People who talk over me constantly, people who refuse to believe what I am saying, when I'm told I am wrong when I know I am right and lots of other things that will clog up the post haha

While I admit I do have some kind of agression issue when I have a meltdown, what you're describing sounds an awful lot like a depressed state you end up in. Going in shutdown mode seems fair way to deal with things, but having to talk yourself out of potentially life threatening situations is a totally different deal.

Have you ever talked about that with someone? Like a therapist?
 
How often do you have meltdowns? It varies so much, sometimes I have them every few days, sometimes I can go a few weeks/ a month without having one, it all depends on how exposed I am to my triggers.

What do they feel like? When it's a meltdown, unbelievable rage, I rant and scream and swear and feel like my head is going to explode and I don't want anyone near me, I just need to get it all out. When it's a shutdown I just feel so depressed and find it hard to do anything, get out of bed, get washed get dressed, eat, everything seems pointless and I feel like I'm in a dream, very hazy and not quite there. Shutdowns don't happen as much as meltdowns, maybe every 3-4 months

How long do they last? On average about 10-15 minutes for the real screechy, pulling at my hair mode, but the build up where I'm angry with everything and slowly getting louder and angrier about 20 minutes, I usually cry afterwards as well, uncontrollable sobbing for a further 15 minutes, so 45-50 minutes total. Then I feel so drained and empty and just not myself for hours after. The shutdowns are usually for a few days up to a week or two, again it varies.

Do you manage to control/direct them at all? No, once I'm in full on meltdown I just have to ride it out, when I'm in the 20 minutes pre-meltdown rant phase if I recognize it building I go and lay down in a dark room until I feel it pass. When I was a teen I used to cut myself in that phase as I didn't like the tantrum / out of control feeling of a meltdown and that was my way of stopping myself tipping over that edge. As for shutdowns it happens, I haven't found a way of getting out of it, I think it's when I'm totally burntout, I've had too much and it's my mind/body's way of slowing me down and letting me recover.

Ever happened at work? Or anywhere dangerous, etc? No, if I feel myself building up to one I try to get home asap to calm down or let it out.

What kind of things set them off? It's a combination of things, it's usually too much sensory overload, coupled with too much social stimulation and then of course the thing that sets it off, I mess something up, or something goes wrong,or someone says something I don't understand; just that one thing (or sometimes several) that just becomes the end of the world situation and the focus for my rage. There are lots of other things that can make it worse and so everything is amplified, if I'm under alot of stress, if I'm not well, if something is upsetting or worrying me.
 
In my mind I have a scale of 1-10, 1 being I'm fine/happy/nowhere near meltdown and of course 10 being in meltdown. My pre-meltdown phase of 20 minutes I'm probably about a 6-8, when it gets to 9 there is no turning back really. Using the scale this is how yesterday's almost meltdown happened for me and my daughter's actual meltdown happened for her.

I wasn't feeling well and we did our bi-monthly shop, it was pretty empty at the supermarket but it was still too bright and the smell down the cleaning products aisle made me want to heave and gave me a headache, about a 3 on the scale. We get home and start to unpack, whilst sorting out Kyoko's snack bowl I found a quite rancid piece of something by putting my hand on it (getting my hands sticky is a VERY big no for me and can have me up on the scale very quickly) I go up on the scale to a 4. Then whilst my husband was making lunch the phone goes, the guy asks for my mother in law(long story she still has some things addressed to here) I say she's not here can I take a message, he asks if I'm a family member I say yes. He then asks how old the television set is, so I say "What? what do you need to know that for?" so he repeats his question about how old is it 2, 3,4 years. So then I ask again why he needs to know how old the TV is and he said "that's none of your concern, now tell me how old it is"....straight up to a 7 and I rage at him "Don't you tell me MY television is none of my concern you f***ing scam artist" and I hung up, I then raged for a good 20 minutes about it to my husband. My level went down a bit to a 6, I felt really ill around 2.30 so I decided to have a nap, husband says he'll pick Kyoko up so I can sleep for longer, well I get woken up to pounding on the door, the dog barking her head off, that gives me a terrible headache but I'm at about 4. My husband tells Kyoko off as they come through the door for banging on it when he told her I was asleep, she starts moaning and that sends me up a notch because I'm thinking "Oh here it comes she is going to be in a strop all evening now". She's slamming doors and plodding her feet around the house, I get up trip over her boots that's she's so nicely left right in front of our bedroom door, whack my shoulder on the door frame (up to 6 again). I calm down whilst we all sit and watch some cartoons, then Kyoko asks if we can try out our knitting stuff (new how to knit magazine came out so I bought us both one, thought we could do it together). I start opening them both and of course horrendous sticky glue sticking things onto the backing card...up to 7 and ranting about why they would use such yukky glue. So we sit and start watching the dvd and following the instructions and I can't do it, it makes no sense and I can feel myself getting wound up because I'm always rubbish at craft stuff. It's made worse by both my husband and Kyoko saying "let me show you" "here give it to me" I want to scream at them both to shut the hell up and leave me alone I will do it in my own time but I just mumble to rewind the dvd. Fail a second time up to an 8 I put it all down and say I need to calm down and I go and lay in the bedroom for 10 minutes which seems to work as I get back down to a bearable 3/4. I feel okay today, bit tense but I'm hoping it will pass...now for Kyoko....

She gets up and sees it's been snowing cue super excitement and begging daddy to take her out for snowball fights and stuff before school, he tells her she has to put her uniform on ready and then they can play right up until school time. So she complains I expect she's on about a 1 or 2 because she NEEDS to play right NOW but daddy is making her put uncomfortable clothing on. We have the usual my pants/vest/leggings are annoying me, almost in tears by the time she's dressed so I expect she's on a 4. She goes out and plays for 20 minutes and then gets angry when she has to come in and get her schoolbag and go to school, of course it's not fair, stupid school etc, I'd say she's on about a 2/3 because the snow play has lifted her mood but daddy telling her off for hitting him in the face with snow after he told her not to kept her in a mood. I remind her that she's going to have lots of fun at school because she can have snowball fights and make snowmen with her friends, she perks up a bit and starts talking about who will have what job (X child will defend them whilst her and Y child will attack the other team).

This bit is all what I learned AFTER the meltdown(because when she has a meltdown I know things have happened at school). Kyoko gets to school and is annoyed because she can't play outside before starting as the bell goes as they arrive. She goes in and her hands are cold from all the snow (despite having thick gloves on) she crosses her arms so her hands are in her armpits to warm them up, teacher tells her to straighten up and uncross her arms whilst they sit on the carpet scale level 3 or so. They have maths...she hates maths, she ends up around a 5 or 6 but calms down again during playtime so is back at 3 or 4. The lunch hall seems far too noisy that day and is overwhelming, she wants to leave but she can't she has to eat her lunch, her best friend is annoying her today with her copying and she ends up falling out with her well into the afternoon. They make up again when they get outside in the snow and build a snowman together, one of the boys kicks it down, cue lots of screaming and yelling from her she is probably around a 6. They start having a snowball fight, it helps get the anger out but then rage again because she gets told off for hitting him in the back with a snowball (they have some stupid rule about only hitting legs/feet) so she's about a 7 on the way home from school. She bangs on the door like she always does (even if she knows nobody is home), the dog starts barking daddy tells her off, up to an 8. We sit and watch cartoons and then the knitting begins, she 'gets it' and does lots of stitches quickly (at this point I go calm down) then when it gets to another type of stitch she can't do it and gets angry (I come back in because I hear her yelling about the stupid stitches). She takes the knitting to daddy so he can show her how to do it, he tells her that she has done all of the first bit wrong and he pulls the wool off the needle (even I did an OMG what have you done face), Kyoko screams "why did you do that daddy?!" and throws the needles and wool across the room, she's at a 9 now. Daddy tells her off for throwing things and she shoots up to a 10 and storms off to rage in her bedroom, screaming and crying. 10 minutes later she's fine and we play, she has a bigger meltdown later that night because I put all of her books back on her bookshelf that she'd carefully stacked in the middle of the room (I tried to tell her it was dangerous as it was so wobbly but she wouldn't listen) we had 20 minutes of ranting about how I was evil, cruel, hated her etc etc, storming past me, throwing things about before she lost it in her bedroom, hitting her pillow, throwing things etc before crying and then calming down and talking through it all.
 
How often do you have meltdowns? It can range from once a week to once a month.

What do they feel like? Sometimes it is a full on crying fit that feels like a tantrum. It is an uncontrollable flow of emotion/ rage. I yell, swear, throw things. After wards I shutdown, being completely spent. At other times I skip the rage and go directly into shut down mode. I just lay there, zombie like, sometimes crying. I just feel exhausted.

How long do they last? A few minutes for a tantrum, the shut down can last for hours.

Do you manage to control/direct them at all? I have found that if I go outside while having a tantrum I can throw sticks at the ground or smash them against a tree. It directs all my negative energy into smashing something that doesn't matter, and it is such a good release.

Ever happened at work? Or anywhere dangerous, etc? No.

What kind of things set them off? Arguments, frustration, sensory overload.
 
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While I admit I do have some kind of agression issue when I have a meltdown, what you're describing sounds an awful lot like a depressed state you end up in. Going in shutdown mode seems fair way to deal with things, but having to talk yourself out of potentially life threatening situations is a totally different deal.

Have you ever talked about that with someone? Like a therapist?

Well, I am going to my next assessment at the Tavistock tomorrow, hopefully I will have some answers then ;)
 

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