It seems to me that context has a big role in all of this, but to me that just adds complexity and confusion to a simple process.
I'd think anything requiring legal/political discretion usually does.
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It seems to me that context has a big role in all of this, but to me that just adds complexity and confusion to a simple process.
What would you say about following society's rules and laws? I think that non aspies find it easier to show flexibility in abiding by rules for personal advantage.
It seems that this question is highlighting that aspies are all different but most are hardcore about rules. I am also guessing that most of the successful business people on this planet think that rules are there to be broken, so do you think that as an Aspie in this world you are at a disadvantage?You took the words right out of my mouth, except that I get bent out of shape. I'm hardcore with most rules, but I guess if they don't make sense for some reason or my logical brain thinks there's a better way, I challenge the rules.
A lot of what's already been said in this thread, I do.
This thread sort of reminds me of an exercise I once had in a college course. One of those "oddball requirements" outside my major, but it had to be fulfilled. It was a criminal justice course in police/community relations.
The instructor was a former police chief. He posed this question: "What do you do if you see someone on the road driving erratically, only to stop them and determine it's the mayor's intoxicated wife?"
His answer upset a few of the students who I suppose anticipated a "black/white" approach to such an issue.
He recommended you discreetly escort her home to sleep it off. No arrest.
Except ,it seems, the drunken wives of mayors.I think that I have heard a quote along the lines of "nobody is above the law"
I would not survive one millisecond in such a strict environment.I play the game by the rules, but what I've discovered in my life is that even when I play by the rules, dot all the I's and cross all the T's, I don't get the reward that the rules say I am entitled to. It seems as if there is a hidden rule everyone else can see but me that reads, "... except for Cyrano. He is not allowed to win. If necessary, the rules will be changed ex post facto so he does not win even if he really did." It is a long way past infuriating, and yet people wonder why I won't do things for them out of the goodness of my heart.
I went to school at a maritime academy, hoping to go into the military as a career. We had many rules there, and I will admit I bent a few of them. For instance, in the winter the campus could be bitterly cold. The uniform of the day frequently included reefer jackets (the officer equivalent of a wool peacoat), black leather gloves, blue wool scarves, and blue watch caps. I read the regulations and discovered a couple of things. First, that there was no rule on the depth of the watch cap, only that it be wool and navy blue. Second, that there was no regulation on the length of the blue wool scarf, only that it be navy blue. Third, that the regs were silent on whether or not black leather gloves could be lined. Fourth, that the regs were silent in the manner of how these things might be worn. So when some girls who had known me in high school gave me a Christmas present of a blue lambswool watch cap that when unrolled came down to my chin, a 12 foot long blue lambswool scarf, and I bought a pair of rabbit fur lined black leather gloves, I was all set. The watch cap had the front neatly folded up and pulled down on my forehead, and the back unfolded so it went down to my collar. I would tuck one end of the scarf inside my shirt and wrap it around my neck and face up to my eyes, neatly tucking it in behind my ear. And the rabbit-lined gloves looked like regular gloves. I was the only cadet in my class who didn't have constant windburn and a dripping nose outside. The Commandant of Cadets stopped me once and asked me what the hell I was wearing. I told him I was in the uniform of the day of watch cap, scarf, gloves, and reefer jacket. He said I was being impertinent. I pointed out that the regulations specified material and color, not size or the manner in which uniform items were to be worn. He realized I had him dead to rights and let me go without putting me on report, because he had no grounds.
Once you know what the rules are, you can bend them; but you have to know how far you can bend them and get away with it.
If you were in control of setting the rules would that have made a difference?I don't do rules well, I chafe against them when I become aware of them.
I'm also lousy at making rules. either way, I have always struggled with rules.If you were in control of setting the rules would that have made a difference?
The only reason that I mentioned it is because I read that an Aspie trait is to seek to follow rules but resists other's authority to change those rules if the new rules are illogical!I'm also lousy at making rules. either way, I have always struggled with rules.
oh to be sure I have found most human-made rules to be rather arbitrary and custom fit to the petty prejudices of the makers of said rules. only the rules of nature seem to be above this mess.The only reason that I mentioned it is because I read that an Aspie trait is to seek to follow rules but resists other's authority to change those rules if the new rules are illogical!
I don't understand the logic of this, or why it matters who she is married to. By letting her off easy she is likely to repeat the same behaviour and seriously risk killing or injuring somebody. One would think such unbiassed policing would garner the police force strong esteem in the public conciousness.
So if you are in a position of power or just a smooth talker then the chances are you sidestep most sticky situations. Something tells me that the average Aspie would not be so lucky!Don't look for logic in everything. This amounts to a political and administrative decision. Bear in mind it was from a former Chief of Police. Someone directly responsible to a District Attorney as well as the mayor. Not a beat cop without any rank.
What we were taught at the college level was essentially that the best police officer use discretion. That they aren't simply mindless enforcers of the law.
So if you are in a position of power or just a smooth talker then the chances are you sidestep most sticky situations. Something tells me that the average Aspie would not be so lucky!
As I see it, there's kind of a difference between following the rules and having a strong sense of right and wrong. Also, I believe right and wrong are sometimes a matter of opinion. The way that I see it, a lot of people are really pretty desensitized when it comes to minor or low-profile rule-breaking. It may not make rule-breaking ethical, but it could be a lot worse. Anyway, I agree with the acute sense of right and wrong, and I believe that DOES hold me back in life. I have a lot of very specific personal rules when it comes to entertainment, and it makes me afraid to see anything "new" in today's movies or shows. Also, my sense of integrity keeps me from appreciating remakes of movies and shows. It really feels like my sense of right and wrong makes it so much harder for me to live in today's society. At any rate, I think I can sympathize with your feelings of "I am the only one following the rules and not many are!"I have read that some traits of Aspergers are to be extremely rules oriented plus an acute sense of right and wrong. I was wondering to what extent this is a common set of traits amongst Aspies and to whether you perceive this as holding you back in the world?
From my perspective it seems as if I am the only one following rules and not many are! This could be uninformed nonsense though! Who knows, the world is a mystery to me!
Remakes of films are never usually as good anyway. I have a different issue with films which is why I won't pay to watch them at the cinema. That is the obscene salaries paid to the actors. I will only watch them on freeview a few years later! Is that an Aspie tendency or what?As I see it, there's kind of a difference between following the rules and having a strong sense of right and wrong. Also, I believe right and wrong are sometimes a matter of opinion. The way that I see it, a lot of people are really pretty desensitized when it comes to minor or low-profile rule-breaking. It may not make rule-breaking ethical, but it could be a lot worse. Anyway, I agree with the acute sense of right and wrong, and I believe that DOES hold me back in life. I have a lot of very specific personal rules when it comes to entertainment, and it makes me afraid to see anything "new" in today's movies or shows. Also, my sense of integrity keeps me from appreciating remakes of movies and shows. It really feels like my sense of right and wrong makes it so much harder for me to live in today's society. At any rate, I think I can sympathize with your feelings of "I am the only one following the rules and not many are!"