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"Why the Myers-Briggs test is totally meaningless"

Why the Myers-Briggs test is totally meaningless

Actual data tells psychologists that these traits do not have a bimodal distribution. Tracking a group of people's interactions with others, for instance, shows that as Jung noted, there aren't really pure extroverts and introverts, but mostly people who fall somewhere in between.

All four of the categories in the Myers-Briggs suffer from these kinds of problems, and psychologists say they aren't an effective way of distinguishing between different personality types. "Contemporary social scientists are rarely studying things like whether you make decisions based on feelings or rational calculus — because all of us use both of these," Grant says. "These categories all create dichotomies, but the characteristics on either end are either independent from each other, or sometimes even go hand-in-hand."Even data from the Myers-Briggs test itself shows that most people are somewhere in the middle for any one category, and just end up being pigeonholed into one or the other.

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We could accept the fact that the Myers-Briggs is limited in defining people in binary categories, but still theoretically get some value out of it because it accurately indicates which pole of any category we're closest to.

But that idea is tough to swallow given the fact that the test is notoriously inconsistent. Research has found that as much as 50 percent of people arrive at a different result the second time they take a test, even if it's just five weeks later.

That's because these traits aren't the ones that are consistently different among people. Most of us vary in these traits over time — depending on our mood when we take the test, for instance, we may or may not think that we sympathize with people. But the test simply tells us whether we're "thinking" or "feeling" based on how we answered the binary questions, with no room in between.

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Apart from a few analyses finding it to be flawed, virtually no major psychology journals have published research on the test — almost all of it comes in dubious outlets like The Journal of Psychological Type, which were specifically created for this type of research.

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The Myers-Briggs is useful for one thing: entertainment. There's absolutely nothing wrong with taking the test as a fun, interesting activity, like a BuzzFeed quiz.

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It's 2014. Thousands of professional psychologists have evaluated the century-old Myers-Briggs, found it to be inaccurate and arbitrary, and devised better systems for evaluating personality. Let's stop using this outdated measure — which has about as much scientific validity as your astrological sign — and move on to something else.

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I have long been skeptical of the MB test myself, and seem to get a different result each time I take it. Lots of people, though, hold it in high regard, and proudly call themselves an "INFP" et al.

Thoughts?

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Yeah, it's rather outmoded. I'm fine with seeing which result(s) I get for fun, but that's all.
 
I think Keirsey's modifications to the M.B. analysis make sense and I sometimes find it useful to place people into one of his four temperament groups: artisans, guardians, idealists and rationals. It is true not everyone cleanly fits into one of the categories, nevertheless, many times I use the temperament groups to gain insight into people I meet.


Keirsey Temperament Sorter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I found it interesting the first time I took it 25 years ago and have always come out as an INTP. But I also don't take it literally. It is interesting that the descriptions of INTP overlapped somewhat with AS descriptions.
 
I read Measuring the MBTI...And Coming Up Short, and I don't understand why one would expect to get the sort of population distribution described. Then again, I wasn't previously familiar with the term "bimodal distribution."

I once read a book about the MBTI in which the author stated that, when she administered the tests, the introverts felt satisfied and validated by the exercise but the extroverts would come up to her afterwards, confused and asking her if their results were valid. She reasoned that extroverts spent so much time outside of themselves that they had difficulty knowing themselves. I wonder if that sort of thing could explain the high rate of differences in results between testing episodes. Are these people just taking Internet versions of the test? How does that 50% rate compare to that of other assessments that are based on self-reporting? Things I wonder about.
 
The MB test told me I was atypical, with a result that was like 1-2% of the population, which was accurate enough, though I am not sure that says anything useful.
 
I just read this week a couple things I don't remember knowing before. 1. Myers was Briggs' daughter. Briggs was Myers mother. 2. Myers had a B.A. in Poli Sci.

There isn't any subtle scornful innuendo involved in these two items. It's just I didn't remember reading either of those before.

Yeah, the Myers-Briggs instrument has become very well regarded. Especially among personnel managers. And citing your type is almost as popular a thing as asking "what's your sign," is for some people.
 
In my neck of the woods, Big 5 has largely displaced the MBTI, which itself replaced the M-instrument. Five axes are easier to manage than 16 types, and it's significantly more flexible. My information's from Spent, and from Daniel Nettle's book on Personality: What makes you the way you are. OCEAN (Openness, Conscientiousness, Extraversion, Agreeableness, and Neuroticism) measures on a scale of 1-14 for each trait and gives you a "dashboard" view of yourself. And best of all, it doesn't say why you are such-and-such--the story each one of us make of ourself is our own "why," the sense we make of the world. What matters is that these traits combine variably.

One thing I'm wondering is whether there's a range that encompasses aspies. I can guess at what various individual conditions could have for ranges, but the thing that I think the OCEAN model does is release us from a label at the individual level--how each of us responds to the world through our particular take on Asperger's, without denying anyone the benefits of a useful diagnostic label.
 
Man, I used to put a great deal of stock in the Meyers Briggs thing. Now, it's not that I disbelieve it, it's more that I'm just not interested. I now more believe in standing back, and allowing human actions to unfold, without trying to categorize the agents of such actions.
 

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