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Why living with other people is hell for those with AS..

My main stressor in life has always been having to live with other people. I'm far from being some kind of hateful weirdo (although 'weirdo' is subjective), but some of us are just not meant to live with other people, which can mean absolute hell if you're not exactly well off financially and inevitably having to houseshare or live with family. So I've put together a brief list of the top things I absolutely loathe about co-habiting with anyone - hope others can empathise!

1. Things getting moved and changed around.

As others with AS will agree, constants are comforting. The feeling that everything is just how and where you left it. Nothing is worse than hearing the words "hey I cleaned up your stuff for you!" - enough to send me into a fit of anxiety and rage. I'm sure people are well-meaning but please leave my stuff where it is, it's there for a reason and not just because I'm a lazy a-hole. Not to mention that your home should be a 'safe' place where you come home to, and not knowing if the other person(s) has rearranged furniture, chucked things out, broken your things, etc - no wonder I stay indoors so much. In contrast, I get the feeling that NTs in general really aren't bothered about this kind of thing, and that if someone started doing their laundry or organising their room they'd be thrilled.

2. Noise.

Whether you're dealing with a shared party house of screaming drunkards or living with parents who spend all night with the TV volume on full, few things are more irritating than unwanted noise. Especially if you have sensory issues with those kinds of noises - I love nothing more than the blissful sound of silence. It does help to invest in a cheap multipack of earplugs or some good headphones if unwanted noise is a regular issue, since even if you do have polite discussions with the other household members about their noise, they will more than likely be oblivious to other annoying noises they make.

3. Visitors.

The embarrasement and awkwardness of coming downstairs in your pyjamas, headband, no makeup and Hello Kitty slippers, then realising you have guests. Worse if it's someone you find slightly attractive. Like I said, your home should be a safe place and any unannounced events like visitors should preferably be mentioned at least 24 hours in advance. At the best of times I'm still not prepared for having other people in my home. Even more annoying if it's someone who eats your food and then proceeds to make a mess in your bathroom.

4. Cleanliness, hygiene and mess.

Speaking of ungodly messes in the bathroom, living with other people means dealing with their germs and dirty habits. Sharing any bathroom-related appliances is the worst - there's getting to know someone, and then there's really getting to know someone. No thank you. Or when you've planned to do laundry/cook for an afternoon, and the other person has left their washing on a 4 hour pre-soak, or they're appearing to bake cakes for all the inhabitants of a small country. No, I can't just "change plans" - if I've committed to doing a particular actiivity, there's no way it's not going to get done.

5. Getting in your space and business.

Most of us here just prefer to be left alone the majority of the time, to do our own things and live life peacefully with minimal interference. Please don't keep pestering me why I get so many letters from the doctor (mental health review appointments mostly), why I have so much food in my fridge space (going to the supermarket is emotionally draining so I stock up), or why I "freak out" about similar to the aforementioned issues. Just please give me space, be nice and please occupy yourself with something else that isn't my business!


I don't think any of us with AS are really designed for living with other people - generally we need our own space and our own space is sacred, which NTs don't always understand. What else have I missed off this list? And if you are stuck living with others for any reason, what helps you get through it?

Comments

I think the delegation of jobs is another issue when it comes to living with someone.
Comparing my experience of been alone with just my brother, I will say this - he's a lazy sod who sits in his room pretty much all day, playing games and watching television while shouting of me all the time.
"Make me a cup of tea!" "Make me a drink of juice!" "Bring this up!" "Take this down!" "Come and watch this!" (I could carry on for ages).
Anywho, after my frustration and stress levels threaten to boil over, I then end up doing all the pots that have piled up because he won't ever do them. The reason i do them is because if I don't, he'll have a go at me for not doing them when he wants his favourite fork or my Mum will have a go at both of us when she gets back.

The worst bit is, if I say no to him then he starts verbally and/or physically abusing me. He also has an annoying habit of pestering me constantly - which consists of him walking randomly into my bedroom (which is my personal space, so to speak) and then either babbling on to me about something I'm not interested in, doing his weird dances or just coming in to take over my laptop/television.

I did wonder in the past if he was on the Autistic Spectrum as well, but I doubt it now. Nowadays, I see him as just been an annoying git. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but when you live with him all the time it's hard not to get frustrated by him.
 
I never cared much living with people, including family. I remember I once rented the room it was a bad experience. I didn't like how small the room is but most importantly, I didn't like the share kitchen and other things that go with it. I'm very used to living alone and I glad I only stayed there for a few months.
 
Hell for me too - that's why I live on my own and choose who to have around. Even living with family was agonizing. I put the need to live on my own in front of any other need (e.g. financial), and somehow things are working out. E.g. I am not starving even though I am a student with a student loan.
I will want to live with someone I care about provided they leave me alone for at least 8 hours a day :D
 
As the mother of an Aspie I have on recently come to terms with the way my son lives. He is lucky that we have the room for him to have his own rooms upstairs like having a 2 room flat to himself. My problem was the mess his area would end up in because he tends to live off the floor. By that I mean everything ends up on the floor and how he ever finds anything amazes me. Twice a year I would have to clean and dust because I couldn't stand the mess.
From reading the above comments I now understand why he would get so furious of the intrusion. I only did it for his health as being an asthmatic living in a dusty environment is not good.
After a major blow up only weeks ago, we have come to an arrangement. I am permitted in one room to keep it clean and dust free etc, but banned from the other. He is quite able to do the cleaning, but its just not on his priority list in life.
His second room is his space and his haven regardless of the mess it gets in. So I just have to accept that.
I have battled with this issue for the last 6 years, but the older he gets the more frustrated it made him having his space cleaned.
He is happy to live at home because this is his safe haven, where it is quiet and organised with very little change. He has the support he needs and now I finally have the understanding he needs abut his private space.
Nothing is easy living with this condition and I try my best to not make life any harder for him, so I hope our arrangement works!
 
JamesBond - That souds really positive to me - I know habits can seem 'weird' to others, but having our own space that's just ours is so important!
 
Heh... I live at my parents house and most factors are pretty absent for one reason or another.

1. I don't care what goes on downstairs; I live in my mancave upstairs.
2. I make more noise than then and the times I don't I have a ceiling fan running to produce white noise to drown out anything (and it gives a nice cool swirl of air in my room)
3. My parents rarely have visitors... once, maybe twice a month someone comes over. I actually have over friends more often
4. The bathroom thing... I'm not one for everything having to be pristine. I use my own things in the bathroom; And I have most of these things on my own shelf and no one has the desire to move them around. Luckily I'm not that strict with doing laundry for example; I just do them "somewhere today" and just see when it happens and the washer is available. Though I will say that I often ask if someone is gonna use the washer later, so I can go on with my business uninterrupted.
5. Privacy is a big thing in this house. My parents haven't stormed in my room for over a decade. The rather phone me than bother me, and this was before I got my diagnosis or anything. They just don't do it, just as much as I don't barge in their bedroom whenever I would need something. If they need me, they're patient enough to wait until I'm eventually downstairs to make some food to ask me whatever they need help with. Despite living with my parents I have managed to not talk to them for weeks.

But here's the thing from my current living situation; I couldn't imagine sharing a house with anyone else, but I couldn't imagine having a place bigger than the 8 by 10 foot I'm living in. I just don't have any interest. I mean, yes, a kitchen and a bathroom added would be nice, but besides that, I'm good with a single room to live, sleep and do other things. And clearly that's not the way houses are build, hah.

So I suppose my living situation is unique in that I always feel I don't live at my parents, I just live with them and I have my own business to tend to. They don't bother with my business and I don't bother with their business. I'm a personal doorbell and mailbox away for being a tennant, lol. And that's why I don't have a real desire to move out I suppose.

I don't even know if I could manage to live with a girlfriend (or a friend), though I've been through the talks about it 4 times in my life... I just don't see it happening for a few reasons

AGXStarseed does address something interesting though when it comes to doing "jobs" in the household. Though that really depends on who you live with. Anyone commanding me to do these things and we'll tangle eventually... I don't do orders. I might offer and ask someone "can I get you X" but if someone would sit around barking orders telling me what to do just in order to delegate some tasks and jobs... nope
 
I hear you! These are issues I've thankfully avoided most of my life. However, I'm finally in a situation where I have to deal with it. I stupidly allowed my bf to move in with me earlier this year because he didn't have enough money to get a place for himself, even with roommates. How I interpreted that as my problem, I don't know. It's a b*tch being a "nice guy (gal)."

I agree completely with everything you mentioned. Some points are more relevant to me than others, but most of it is spot on.

1. I hate coming home to find things rearranged, food I thought we had is missing from the fridge (means another trip to the grocery store), dishes in the sink, spills on the floor, something broken.
2. Blaring radio when I come home. I don't particularly like listening to music as soon as I hit the front door. Also, blabbering in the morning. I'm not a morning person. Other than those things, he's fairly quiet.
3. My bf does not usually have visitors at my house. It irritates me, though, when he announces his brother came over during the day when I wasn't home. I just don't like strangers in my home, and his brother is a stranger to me.
4. Cleanliness is a big deal with me. I'm a clutter bug, I admit, but I'm a clean person. I don't like food being placed directly on the counter where the cats have been walking. That's what God made cutting boards for. We also had to have a discussion about not using my bath towel as his hand towel. As I mentioned above, there are always spills on the floor now, and dishes may or may not get done. It aggravates me because I would do the dishes, but he insists he'll do them. I can't trust him to do my laundry either, because I don't know where he'd end up putting my clean clothes ... probably on the bed where the cats have been laying, and then they would be laying in the clean clothes too.
5. My bf follows me all over my 625 square foot house like a puppy, usually yakking at me. Drives me nuts, especially in the morning, or when I need to use the bathroom. I literally have to close the door in his face sometimes. The constant talking really annoys me sometimes too. His words are intruding on my personal space and pressuring me to respond.

I guess it could be a lot worse. I know he tries not to disturb me too much. It's just I don't think I need to be living with anyone. My mother and my late husband were two exceptions. They were both quiet, clean, thoughtful and respectful of my space and belongings. Even with my husband, though, we began to have issues when he started working the same hours as me. Before that, he had days off during the week, and I had the weekends to myself. We both started spending more time away from the house once our schedules were aligned. Him on the weekends and me during the week.

How do I deal with my situation now? Once again, I stay away from my house a lot more. :(
 
Cali Cat - Oh no - that sounds like a stressful situation! Either try a calm discussion to talk about the issues (he might not realise how much these things bother you), & if he is respectful enough he'll try to be more conscious. Otherwise you may need to suggest it could be a good idea for him to live with friends or family for a while. Sounds like an exhausting place to be!
 
Yeah, I definitely can see your points, as I live with an Aspie, who never cleans his room, lets laundry pile up until it smells of mold in the bedroom, leaves that fourth loaf of molded bread lying in the kitchen (cause he doesn't see the need to throw it out--doesn't bother him), or throw out the spoiled lunch meat purchased weeks ago that is smelling up our refridgerator or the fact that he won't clean anything (because of his OCD germaphobe thing). So, I agree, Aspie should live alone, where they won't be bothered, and don't bother anyone else.
 

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