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Blog 9: Aspies & violence.

I awoke early this morning thinking about what happened in Connecticut. Adam Lanza (the shooter) is reported on CNN (by his older brother Ryan (who was initially misidentified as being the shooter) to have 'a form of Autism'!

I've wondered about the potential effect that isolation, depression, rage, possibly being victims of bullying, rejection by love interests mishandling by schools/society/medical/mental healthcare systems, suicidal ideation/nihilism & easy firearms access have on some young (late teen-early 20s) Aspie men.

It cannot be ignored that our community is capable or producing some very dangerous characters. Putting our heads in the sand, pleading 'sensitivity' & refusing to discuss it isn't an option nor is denial or the silencing of others more willing to talk openly.

So many Aspie women turn their depression & anger inwards & become self-destructive. There is a lot of internalized anger turned into depression. Our young men also suffer from depression BUT western cultures (esp in the USA) instruct guys that depression & vulnerability are feminine traits & signs of weakness. They are tacitly & sometimes openly taught that they're supposed to be un-emotional, always in control & that they should be initiators of decisive actions.

Many Aspie men have severe control issues: any upsetting of an expected routine can trigger a melt-down. Life, however, is fraught with these upsets & uncertainties & due to Asperger's, underemployment & financial constraints, few young Aspie men are in control of their lives. They are quite broke & dependent on parents, a minimum wage job or financial aide of some sort. One could argue that this is true of many Aspie women as well BUT our society has a marked double standard when it comes to women & dependency.

As with other young men, Aspie guys' hormones are raging & they too seek sexual gratification with a partner. For so many straight Aspie guys just on this forum, finding this kind of relationship is proving elusive. More than 5 that I remember have expressed stereotypical & misogynistic thoughts about women. They all share one trait in common: severely limited experiences with actual women! As with other prejudices, ignorance & limited exposure nurtures prejudices.

What is the interaction that occurs between sexual desire, sexual frustration, black & white thinking, rage & control issues, suicidal ideation & emasculation? Toss in a measure of humiliation, feelings of powerlessness & social messages telling them that they're supposed to turn their frustrations outwards, add convenient access to firearms & you can see how this can end badly. The rage could be directed at women for rejecting them, seemingly successful people enjoying their lives in leisure activities like shopping or going to the movies, a work environment that either fired them or refused to hire them, the school they have bad memories from, the college they were struggling in & feeling like a misfit in...

I'm NOT spewing blanket suspicion on ALL Aspie men: just looking at the very specific traits & social conditions that have been proven to be common traits in young men who've gone on murderous rampages. What can be done to prevent such tragedies from occurring? I don't claim to have the solution or that there even IS one formula that will prevent such rampages. One thing I do know for sure: talking about it openly is essential. Denial never solved a problem of any kind.

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I think talking might help, as would counseling and guidance if they want to.

But looking at just my country and support for autism (or general disorders) it's becoming really slim. Society basically tells us "figure it out yourself"... this won't neccesarily root out a so-called "wrong planet" syndrome. It probably alienates a lot of us way more. It's a big financial issue mostly. I, among others (probably even here) have no job, and as such a rather minimal income, my parents have no clue what and IF they can do anything. BUt just like me, they're on a budget, they both don't have a job. I can't ask them to support me financially because I need extra care or therapy. And social services isn't giving me that either. To them, the most basic answer would be "try to cut costs on food".

A while ago I filed for financial aid for some help. It was denied and they pretty much told me "we do not grant financial aid to those who haven't tried looking for help themselves first". Basically it comes down to "if you can't afford help first, we see no reason to help you out either".

I think, a thing society, and the media especially needs to keep in mind, is that the perfect image shouldn't be pressed upon everyone. Yes, in terms of sexuality, we might crave a (as a man) female. Have sex, etc. But perhaps this is a side effect of the sexualisation of society over the past 50 years. I'm not saying we should go back living in chaste and all, but perhaps it would be a good idea to not emphasize everything on "sex sells", since that surely wont create a blown up version of sexual desire in men (but also women) which they have to deal with today.

Another thing I feel is key here; if I tell my therapist that I want to kill someone, chances are he will report me. I'll end up at the precinct, maybe in jail or have to participate to a program, which might not be my liking. Aside from the fact that I might come out worse... why is this? Is this because society lacks the motivation, energy, time and money to put a more accomodating therapy and see if we can get people to change their minds. Talking about murder (or in general offenses) at a therapists office is most likely getting you in even more trouble, even if that person is the one you have to trust most.

If there's a taboo on addressing everything and being sure that you're still safe and in control of your life (as far as you are now), then I can see people giving therapists the silence treatment about their most devious fantasies.

I don't think we should treat aspies like royalty, but from my own experiences, it see a lot of support being cut out over time and as a result I end up a 2nd rank citizen because I can't participate the way it works for both society and me. If I cost more money because of my issues, so be it. That's what humanity is about I guess.

And honestly, how harsh, brutal and emotionless this may sound (so if you're a sensible person, stop reading).

I'm not speaking on behalf of aspies, but I think in general for everyone suffering from anything that might get him to do deed X. There's a price to all of this. The loss of financial support for this will apparently be justified by more violence. As long as healthcare (and governments) think that people need to spend more on healthcare themselves (which they presumably can't), they will look for other ways for self-help. Some will drink, do drugs or other dangerous things, others will get back to others. By now it's clear that going on a killing spree for self-help to some is a good substitute. I don't advocate this behaviour in any way, but if the government can tell me "well, we need to cut back on expenses... it is what it is"... then by all means, how is behaviour like this not "it is what it is"?
 
" As long as healthcare (and governments) think that people need to spend more on healthcare themselves (which they presumably can't), they will look for other ways for self-help. Some will drink, do drugs or other dangerous things, others will get back to others. By now it's clear that going on a killing spree for self-help to some is a good substitute. I don't advocate this behaviour in any way, but if the government can tell me "well, we need to cut back on expenses... it is what it is"... then by all means, how is behaviour like this not "it is what it is"?" -King_Oni

This is exactly the type of sentiment expressed by the desperate mother in that letter Holly linked to her post in the "How are you feeling" thread. It really is worth reading. In it, the mother writes about the challenges she is facing by the cash-strapped poorly designed USA mental health care system when it comes to her 13 yr old son. He's brilliant academically, but goes into these explosive terrifying rages. She's tried virtually everything to get her son the help he needs but is meeting with frustration at every turn. He has world-class melt-downs & the mother is afraid of him. You can see how this child will one day, as he grows in size, strength & frustration, do something horrendous.

It is what it is- but what the hell IS it? A gross lack of compassion for the mentally ill who also have limited financial means. Those with a lot of money & a mentally ill child CAN access excellent services & support. What it is: reducing the quality of human life & the well-being of citizens to a dollars & cents equation.
 
I read that article the other day, so even without looking it up I know what article you're talking about, heh.

To be honest, the article reminded me of myself when I was a child. I was the same for most part. I'd have random, really agressive meltdowns for no good reason as well. But compared to that kid... I'm an only child, I had a mother who took the effort to take a pediatricians course and some child psychology as well as being taken to a different school (one with less kids in my class; I remember 7; compared to the 30 we have now), as well as a afterschool thing ran by pediatricians. But that was when I was 8 years old.

Times have changed, and the services and options back then aren't available for everyone right now so it seems. I had my support in a period where you didn't get ADHD and Autism labels for free with every can of high sugar energy drinks. I didn't got diagnosed with anything at age 8, but I still got some help.

Looking at my parents and what they did; I never got into serious trouble with punishments. They key in my experience was that I had alone time. And how weird it sounds; I had alone time to play AND reflect on what I did and how I felt. That's something that's absent from kids nowadays since everything has others involved. When I was a kid, my parents didn't think it was that weird for me to not play with others, they thought "hey, if that works, sure, why not?". Now, the slightest divergence of behaviour is analyzed and labeled clinically "wrong". Furthermore, all I'm reading is "mom, son, 2 other siblings". I'm not slamming the mom for being a single mom, I can't judge on that. But quite often I read about problem cases and how they're from a single parent household. Perhaps that's something worth ringing the alarmbells for already. Add in a "poor" family with multiple kids (even if those kids are alright). This might be a stretch, but some kids cannot deal with sharing in a household. Does not work well with others is true for some people, from early ages already.

From the entire story I feel I'm missing things. If it's all true what she writes then it's awful, but I doubt that's all there is to it. What if this is a way for this boy to cope with PTSD? What if... we're being told only half the story? I wouldn't be surprised if under further investigations and a follow up on this, it would end up that the boy got violently molested by his dad and as such got messed up like this. Perhaps his mom was an unfit parent for a significant part of his life. But that's the information we're not reading.

I might be the cynic here.

Yes, I believe that cutting back on (mental) healthcare is silly (and that's an understatement) but with a few disorders (especially developmental disorders) I'm quite sure there's more to it than just this. More than a few kids end up messed up because of faulty parenting on top of brooding mental problems (perhaps even the parents are equally messed up already).

"It is what it is" refers to the cutbacks. Over here the government will cut back and will just get on with "well, we need to cutback somewhere". The fact that they do not calculate risks of people with mental disorders, especially the volatile kind, makes it really dangerous.

The most interesting thing I discussed with my girlfriend over this entire debacle of cutting back on healthcare was that some people are all for "locking up those wacko's", but on the other hand they're also complaining about how it's "their" taxmoney. To them I pose a rather provocative question "how much is your safety worth?".

Here's someting I had going on last year while I was at the social services office. And again, this might come across as offensive. If you're easily offended, go to the bold part after the italics below.

I discussed options and my pending diagnosis and issues with a coach there, to where I said; so please tell me, if you're so adamant of pushing me towards employment without any prior knowledge and risk assessments... tell me, are you willing to take the responsibility of any and all risks that might happen because of me by your doing and forcing me somewhere I don't belong? Is this the risk you are willing to take? Will your signature be on that document knowing that you're partially responsible for potential harm to others by forcing through something that's based on rules, regulations and paperwork? Let's rephrase it; imagine I'd leap over this desk right now and harm someone here... imagine someone would harm you in a similar situation now. Is that the risk you are willing to take as an employer? Is this the thing you thought about when you left your house this morning kissing your husband goodbye. Imagine you won't be coming home again because someone at your work is in a place where he should not be, due to bad counseling and guidance. I'd strongly advice you to talk to your supervisor and higher up. You have documentation of people and you know that getting them employed is almost a lost cause. They are functional, but not by general rules, they need individual counseling, which is something this, and all the other departments around the country lack due to cut backs. I'm quite sure those people are willing to discuss it with you, but not through means pushing through something that's probably conjured up by upper management by means of increasing efficiency.

End of italics

I'm quite sure this good ma'am never had this intense of a sit down with someone for a while, purely on a verbal level that didn't include cussing her out for just doing her job. I gave her a heads up, advice and new ideas because of pending risks. Granted, I don't know if my gravelly batman-like voice was needed nor that "imma fire lasers with my eyes"-look (even if I wore shades; they probably started lighting up... like cyclopes from X-men). But still..

Yes; I might get cerebral, borderline... well "psycho" at some point, but unlike a fair share of people who harm others, I can express myself verbally pretty well at times. I can choose to keep away from danger, and as much as possible dodge it even. Maybe I'm still rebel enough to know I can choose not to go with the flow as much as I'm expected. Yes, society tells me to do certain things, and to a degree I'll comply, that's fine. But still, something I said in my previous response here "it works for both society and me". That's the big thing... I don't believe in one-way traffic like this.

To come full circle here; as long as the disabled aren't being listened to and have discussion, and indeed, as long as we put a pricetag on well-being (and much, like I expressed earlier; safety) of myself and others, we will not fix this problem.

I have a few other interesting theories about society that involve healthcare and things in general, but I wont touch them here, since that'll derail this blog a lot more.
 
Thanks for popping back in with your considerable experience. It really does seem like diagnoses are doled out like a bonus 'gift with purchase'. Whenever I notice the sick/sweet scent of a social trend, I always ask 3 questions:

Whose agenda does it serve? Who is benefiting from it? Who will be adversely affected by it?

Society has made a HUGE blunder by thinking with its heart (more like its @$$) & not with its head. Dumping severely mentally ill patients out of in-patient care facilities was idiotic. The argument here went that they were 'members of the community' & ought not be separated from others. Also, if they take their medications, most of them can function adequately in society. A paranoid schizophrenic cannot be relied upon to take his or her medications regularly & in the correct dosages! Many take their meds, begin feeling well, believe that they are cured & no longer need medicine & stop taking them outright. The side effects of many anti-psychotics are also insupportable & further compel patients to stop taking them. Family members cannot be thrust into the role of attendant carers for a grown adult schizophrenic. I imagine if it were my older brother: my mother is 77, only 4'9" tall & less than 95 lbs. My older brother is 6'5". She could never manage him if he were to freak out or even just refuse to cooperate!

Cutting all funding to mental health care served the agenda of the province who wanted to divert these funds elsewhere (like their own pockets). As for who bore the brunt of it, the voiceless powerless mentally ill who were cash-strapped & came from families who couldn't afford private facilities.

Oh- I DID read the part in italics & I like the way you spelled it out in straightforward language to the pencil-pushing moron you were facing. They need to know that forcing someone with your temperament into an untenable situation of constant forced socializing in a workplace setting is a bad idea. Although you haven't yet gone on anything resembling a rampage, I could see you yanking someone's cubicle right out of it's floor bolts & lobbing it out of a 5th storey window (along with the guy who happened to be in it). It's good that you know yourself & your temperament well enough to not put yourself in such a predicament.
 

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