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Aspies, Accomodations and Employment (oh my!)

Something on my mind for quite a while now and I’ve been wanting to talk about this in my blog for a few months already (though I just kept postponing sitting down for it); As some of you know I tend to ramble a bit about AS and employment. It tends to be a bit of a sore spot for me. I’ve had mostly negative experiences, though I wouldn’t blame them exclusively on my aspieness.

So anyway, in the past few years I’ve pursued my diagnosis, I’m currently unemployed, however, as with most people, I should be employed. And earn my own money. All fine and dandy, but obviously psychologists, specialists and then some do agree that I do not function on the “regular” jobmarket as they say. I would need accommodations to make a job somewhat meaningful and actually be worth it for an employer. Luckily the government does support a lot of things financially (though the dutch government is trying to cut this down, as yet another way to save expenses. Cutting down the viability for disabled people in employment as well as cutting down benefits… it’s politics run by someone who can do some number crunching and has excellent managerial skills, yet no understanding of social matters).

As all these people agreed, I need accommodations I applied for these, because it’s clearly better to have this documented rather than just don’t to anything. If anything, at least I’m willing to give it a shot… even if I’m still a pessimist looking at the contents of the actual document. Not totally uncalled since even my social worker finds this document a bit of a joke. She can’t imagine a job fitting the profile, nor a company that would want to hire me… unless there would be a rather large compensation to just “think up” a job that fits the profile and keep me employed as long as they receive said compensation delivered with a gold ribbon on their doorstep.


Hence; this is what I have on paper as it is.

  • Quiet working environment that has a minimum amount of stimulation (in the sense of sensory overload)
  • Autonomy and my own place to do a job/task on my own way
  • Solitary tasks
  • A job that fall in line with my intellectual capabilities- Clear directions
  • No pressure to complete said task
  • Offer good structure I can work with.
  • Additional assistance by a person with whom I can connect on a personal level to avoid any adversary and anger issues, as well as a positive vibe and communication within said company overall
  • A minimum amount of interruptions and distractions so I'm not taken out of the loop when I'm working
  • A maximum of 30 hours a week. Approx. 6 hours for 5 days a week, preferably during office hours or any other steady shift

In general I’d say, that, aside from the type of work, these circumstances are pretty aspie-optimal. I can’t even argue. It looks good on paper. It just feels pretty generic. It does leave out some important pointers on a personal level. Some stuff relates to that it should be so that I can handle it, but it doesn’t state how I can handle it effectively. It effectively will turn into a lengthy process of trial and error just to see what works how, and is under the assumption that it will actually work. But as said, I’m perhaps a bit of a pessimist here. Though I guess I could also argue that by being more negative about it, I do possess the knowledge to potentially save the government some money; they’re already wasting a lot by “trial and error” as is, lol.

So, with this; “what say ye?” Do these accommodations look aspie-optimal and friendly?

I’m inclined to say, yes… I’m just not sure how this actually fits into the jobmarket in general.

Comments

I'm sure I don't have the magical answer to solve all your problems, but from reading your blog, and from everything you've said in the past, it seems like an ideal situation (if possible) is to be your own boss. It'd be hard, but you'd be free to do things your way.
 
Oh, I'm well aware that would be the ideal situation. It's pretty much what therapists have said as well.

I'm just not entirely sure how to go about with that. To start a company on my own one would need money, something that's fairly absent now... and most likely in the long run until I were to save up some by doing a regular job for a few years. And that's pretty much the underlying issue of this blog entry. To have a job, to earn money, I would need to bite the bullet and go through the route of employment before being able to save up. Starter loans are pretty much out, since the ones who would approve this, do think I'm "disabled and unable to do something constructive in terms of employment".. yet those same people want me to get a regular job for a boss. Funny how that works, lol.

On the other hand, I've heard plenty of therapists tell me that I would actually need 24 hours a day just for myself. Which probably makes running your own thing a bit less viable, if you need so much alone time. That in turn might also make me a bit more cynical when it comes to employment in general.

And not to mention an overall lack of interests that are somewhat conventional in terms of employment. Location might be an issue.. .and thus it's a combination of factors which, even though I've thought about it and spoke to people about it, just seems not that viable for personal and practical reasons. Location is like, trying to sell ski's around the equator, hoping someday it will snow and you actually have a viable business going on. It's not likely to happen unless stuff got really odd.

Yet that is not to say that the alternative, being employed and working for a boss, will be an actual working and fully functional alternative.

Seems like being stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Though all things considering, I think I'm still fairly positive despite a somewhat cynical view; perhaps I'm a bit more realistic in looking at what's possible and viable. Sometimes the truth is there is no actual solution and any outcome bites equally hard.

So yes I've been over this entire notion of being my own boss a few times already, on my own as well as with "professionals".
 
1. As for location with regard to general employment -- from what I've heard from other Dutch friends, and my own brush with the potential of moving to Amsterdam, you're in one of the best places for employment in general, especially with some of the things you've mentioned.

2. You don't need money to start most businesses. Check out bootstrapping groups in your area and bootstrapping resources in general.

3. You might want to check out Auticon or similar businesses. There are a number who specifically hire Autistics for various jobs.
 
The main reason employers seem to be so heartless is and always has been and always will be, the bottom line. If not, with the exception of being a hobby, there is no point to being in business. If you have investors of any kind, it's not a hobby.

I have a small business here in Mazatlan, I don't pay by the hour. I pay a percentage based on the bottom line. I take no salary. to me it's a hobby, to my employee's it a job. Because it effects the bottom line, it is at the discretion of all employees when money is spent for what ever purpose in regards to the everyday running of the business. I ate the initial start up cost.

OK, for the sake of arguing, you are giving a Million Dollars to start a company. Generally with such a deal there are strings attached in the form of stock holders and or investors, but for the sake of arguing, leave them out.

There are start up cost, one has to have a space to do the business so for the first year you only rent. Rent of retail space is generally by the square foot. Then you have Utilities to turn on, Furniture to buy, displays, stock, permits, licenses, etc.

How much would it cost to design from the ground up or convert where ever you want to work into a viable work place for you. Add in how much it would cost to convert it over for each and every employee based on their disability regardless of nature. How much cost to maintain your ideal work place per day, times 5, times 4, times 12. Add in your salary, add in benefits IE Vacation pay, Holiday pay, Sick pay, Medical Insurance, Unemployment Insurance etc. Multiply that times the number of employees. I know I have not included every little thing, but that's OK, just add it all up. How much do you plan to charge for your product or service. Subtract all your cost of the prospected sales of goods or services. Are you in the red or black.
 
I have most of these in my current working-from-home gig, but even work-from-home gigs aren't immune to the invasiveness of social media. I nearly went mad with a company that wanted 100% work from home, but I had to monitor multiple email accounts, chat, two enterprise applications and their embedded comm systems, and be available for web conferencing (and its multitude of interrupts: chat/IM during calls). Not to mention ordinary phone calls on either my cell or my landline. It was a nightmare. Now things are really nice, but this ends in a few months and I'm trying to appreciate it while I have it. Unfortunately I can't deduct workspace for taxes, because I don't just use my office for the job, because I can't imagine having a computer solely for work in my own house.
 

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