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Featured On the fence about whether I'm autistic

Discussion in 'General Autism Discussion' started by MrIpcac, Jun 7, 2017.

  1. MrIpcac

    MrIpcac Active Member

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    I’ll apologize in advance for the length. This is going to be long.

    But certain family members, including my wife, think I might have Asperger’s syndrome or some form of high-functioning autism, since Asperger’s isn’t being diagnosed as of 2013, apparently. This has on-and-off been an issue since I was 28.

    I’m on the fence about whether I could be autistic. I’ve taken a few online tests. One of those, my results were borderline, whereas the few others said I was most likely Neurotypical. I also did a test where I had to determine what the person was feeling based on their facial expression, and I scored 14 out of 20, which was said to be slightly above average. Autistics can, of course, learn how to read emotions in faces and online tests might not always be accurate, so I thought I’d post here and see if anyone can offer any insight into my issues.

    SOCIAL ISSUES:

    We’ll start with the big one. I’m an extreme introvert.

    I work in retail and my job requires me to interact with strangers. I would be in the middle of doing one of my tasks and a customer would randomly come up to me asking for help. They can get annoying, but it’s generally not stressful unless the customer is being belligerent in some way. I don’t handle hostility or confrontational situations well at all. I can greet coworkers and sometimes will talk to them. I can sometimes ask to borrow certain things I might need though sometimes not.

    Once I get home, unless I need to get something somewhere else, I’m probably just going to stay home for the rest of the night. My hobbies—watching movies or shows, playing video games, reading, writing, surfing the Internet—are solitary. Since I was 20, I’ve had various people that I’ve talked to online and that’s usually the extent of my social life. I’ve always been okay with this. I express myself better in writing than verbally. When I have tried group social situations with my wife’s friends or her parents, I usually just sat there and listened to everyone else talk to each other. I’d answer questions if they asked me anything. I’m horrible at maintaining conversations face-to-face, which is one of the things that is putting a strain on the marriage. I am really trying to work on this for her, though.

    In the past, there were a few coworkers whom I could talk and joke around with and I genuinely enjoyed their company, though I never saw them outside of work and once they left the company, I lost touch with them.

    I was slightly more sociable as a kid. A lot of my friends tended to be more bully than friend, though. My younger brother also said to someone else that people didn’t really like me; they just wanted me around to laugh at. By middle-school, it seemed easier to just shut myself in my room and read comic books or play video games or watch movies after school than it was to socialize. Less stress that way.

    I had less impulse control and acted a lot goofier as a kid and I guess people found me annoying or thought I was stupid or something. I also had a severe speech impediment as a kid because my hearing as a toddler was horrible, so I couldn’t learn to speak correctly back then. It’s gotten a lot better through speech therapy now, but touches of it still linger and it’s something I’ve always been self-conscious about. I also had tubes put in my ear as a kid so my hearing is just fine now.

    As an adult, my inhibitions are at the other extreme. Unless I can get to know someone really well, my life is a book where all the pages are glued shut. I don’t express emotions, sometimes I’m afraid to express opinions on things. I’m afraid that people will think I’m stupid or boring or annoying or that I’ll embarrass myself in some way and that once someone actually got to know me and who I really am, they’d hate me or something.

    I do know how to behave in public and socially. I understand etiquette. A few people have even said that I was polite. Someone at work once said to someone else that I’m too professional. But social situations are still oftentimes scary to me.

    I never had a problem being alone. And like I said, I do have the Internet to socialize on, and I don’t have a lot of these same social issues online as I do offline.

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  2. MrIpcac

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    SENSORY ISSUES:

    Loud and shrill noises are painful to me. Extremely bright lights can be as well. Sometimes when driving at night, other people’s headlights can reflect too brightly off of my rearview or side mirrors, but this isn’t always the case. When they first started putting those blue LED lights into electronics, I hated them. I had one on my computer monitor right below the screen and it gave me severe eyestrain. I had to tape paper over it so I wouldn’t see it anymore. That was back in 2005, I think. Since then, maybe I’ve become desensitized to it, or maybe the manufacturers learned how to not make them as intense, but I have one on my digital cable box and it doesn’t bother me as much, though I also don’t have to constantly look at it when I’m watching TV either. I prefer wearing loose clothes and I don’t like shirts that are tight around the neck. I don’t have any other sensory issues that I can think of. I never had any problems with fluorescent lights and have never noticed a loud buzzing from them and I can’t think of any other crippling sensory issues that I’ve ever noticed.

    Stimming:

    I shake my leg. I twirl and fiddle with my fingers. Sometimes if I’m walking at the store I’ll slide my fingers along the shelves or merchandise without even thinking about it. I used to bite my nails when I was younger, but I got sick of it being sore underneath the nails because I bit them too short, so I stopped doing that. Afterward, I started playing and twirling my hair. A few people got annoyed with that. Someone at work made fun of me for it. I shave my head now, so twirling my hair is no longer an issue. Sometimes if I’m alone in the parking lot, I might run get the urge to run across it and then do so, though I slow down as I approach others as I then get self-conscious about it. When I’m going down a flight of stairs, again, if I’m alone and there are 4 or 5 stairs left, I’ll just jump to the bottom.

    REPETITION:

    Well, I try not to repeat myself. It might be one factor for why I’m so bad at conversation: I might not have anything else to say about a given topic other than what I said, so if I go on about it I’ll just end up repeating myself.

    I didn’t see repetition as strange growing up. My mom repeats herself a lot in normal conversation and my dad tends to tell the same jokes and stuff. My siblings kind of do the same with memes and the like. I’ve known other people who tended to tell the same jokes, too, so it’s hard to see where it’s just something that some people do until it gets old and where it falls into an autistic trait.

    For what it’s worth, when I’m writing stories, especially longer ones, I’ll sometimes repeat the same lines or repeat the same information or descriptions a few times. It’s easy to fix those problems in the revision process, though.
     
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    ROUTINES, INTERESTS, AND CHANGE:

    I fall into routines very easily, but deviating from that routine won’t cause distress. Usually, I’ll take the same route to and from work every day because it’s the fastest and easiest way and there isn’t any reason to go a different way. If I’m driving home and I learn that there is horrible traffic on my usual route, then I have a few alternative routes that I can take and I have no problem doing this; I just can’t stand being stuck in traffic.

    I can get stuck in ruts when it comes to meals as well. There was a time where I would often eat Subway for lunch and dinner, and not much else other than on my days off. I had a few different sandwiches to choose from, but it still got to the point where I ate Subway so often that I just got sick of it and couldn’t stand the thought of eating it anymore. I sometimes try to be on the lookout for new types of meals I could try. For lunch, I’m at work so I’m limited to whatever they have to offer there. Dinner, I can be a bit more versatile. There’s an Asian grocery store where I live that has a lot of unique foods. The problem there is that the stuff that I liked that was easy to make, they stopped carrying, and a lot of the other stuff that I’d want to try seems overly complicated and I often can’t get it right, so I’ve had little motivation to shop there as of late, though I had fun there before.

    I wake up every day at 5:30am, because I start work at 6:30. Sometimes my body will just wake me up earlier than 5:30, but never later. On work days, I will eat breakfast right after I get up and get dressed because I have to. I have 20 minutes to get ready and leave for work. On my days off, I’ll eat breakfast whenever I feel like it, though usually NOT right after I first wake up. At work, I’ll take my lunch breaks between 12:00 and 12:30, usually around 12, but it doesn’t have to be exactly at 12. I’ll eat dinner whenever I feel like it, usually between 5pm and 8:00pm. I try to be in bed around 9:30pm, but sometimes my body doesn’t feel like going to sleep, in which case it’ll be at some time later than that.

    I’ve already outlined my leisure activities. When I come home from work, I’ll usually surf the net, play video games, or watch a movie or TV show, depending on what I feel like doing. For a while I might be in a gaming kick, then I’ll want to binge watch something. It all depends on my mood. On my days off, I like to read and write in the morning and afternoon, and then for the evening activities, it’s the same as my workdays. When it comes to movies, shows, and books that I like, I gravitate toward horror, science fiction, fantasy, action, or what I’ll call weird and bizarre things, though I’m willing to do other genres if it looks interesting to me, or if I’m around people and that’s what they want to watch. When it comes to books, I’ll occasionally make it a point to read something from an author whose work I’ve never read before. I am willing to try out other activities and have enjoyed other activities, though since I don’t express my emotions much, I might appear bored while participating in them. It also doesn’t usually occur to me to seek out other leisure activities. Though in the summer I do spend some time swimming, and I did play some sports and did martial arts as a kid, too. When on vacation with the wife, usually she plans things out, because I’m horrible at planning out vacations but I’m willing to try out whatever she wants to do.

    Back to my stories, while I might repeat the same phrases and lapse into other repetition within the same story, I try to make it a point to make all my stories unique from one another and if it ever feels like I’m just writing the same thing over and over again, I feel like it’d be pointless to continue with that as a hobby.

    I don’t have any special interests where I know everything there is to know about that topic. I can have fleeting obsessions occasionally, but it never goes beyond that. As a kid, I’d really get into certain shows or characters for a few years and then stop caring about them and get into something else, but I also had other shows that I still watched, but my passion for them wasn’t as intense.

    I don’t seek out change, but I feel like I handle change about as well as the average person. About 7 years ago I moved 300 miles away from where I grew up to be with my girlfriend, currently my wife. It was a scary change, yes, but I thought I had adjusted to it well enough. Last year they asked if I wanted to switch departments, and I thought about it for a few seconds and then said yes, because I wanted out of my old department and was miserable there for various reasons. The new department was an adjustment, and I still have a lot to learn, but again, I adjusted to the change well enough.

    Working retail isn’t the most ideal occupation for someone like me, but I have gotten used to it. I wouldn’t be opposed to a job change. If someone offered me a job in another field that I could be good at, and the pay was more than what I’m making now, with adequate benefits and acceptable hours and a decent commute, I’d consider it, but the prospect of having to find another job, go through job interviews, etc., is daunting to me. I’m horrible at job interviews and I wonder how I’ve managed to get the two jobs I’ve held throughout my life, but once I have a job, the employers generally feel I’m a hard worker and an asset, so I don’t have a problem keeping a job. Where I work, they also tend to change things a lot and a lot of people are vocally opposed to those changes. I’ve had negative opinions and reservations on some of those changes as well, but other changes I was okay with, and were even a few that I embraced and wondered why they weren’t doing it that way to begin with.

    Structure can be good, but what’s really important to me is security. I tend to be risk-averse, so if I’m going to take a chance on something, I’d want to know that either if it fails, it won’t be that big a deal, or that I’d at least have something else to fall back on. I also try to follow rules wherever possible, mainly to try and stay out of trouble. If I have a good reason to break a rule and am reasonably sure that I’d be okay afterward, I could break the rule and might even be at ease doing so.

    And if I do plan for something and must deviate from it later, I can do that, no problem.

    I’m definitely not spontaneous. My wife loves surprises but I don’t surprise her that often. I’m trying to work on that and am trying to learn how to be more romantic, too but it doesn’t come naturally to me.

    OTHER STUFF:

    I’ve never had an autistic meltdown or shutdown. I screamed and talked back to my parents as a kid just like everyone else. As a kid, sometimes my younger brother would deliberately anger and annoy me and I’d hit him, but other sets of siblings have had similar situations. Sometimes even now when I get angry, I might hit an object and swear, but it never goes any further than that.

    I have no problems with figures of speech and I love sarcasm. Some people joke while around me, and I understand that they’re joking, but since I don’t laugh or react much besides a nervous “okay”, they assume that I didn’t get it and then will say “it was a joke.” Sometimes I won’t get a joke right away, but after thinking about it for a few minutes, I can usually figure it out.

    Short-term and long-term memory are fine. Sometimes I’ll put something down and then a few minutes later I’ll forget where I put it. At my workplace, when I worked in the movie section, we changed the movie selection around every few months, but after a couple weeks I would know what movies we did and didn’t carry and approximately where they were. As a kid, when I collected trading cards, I knew which cards I had and which ones I needed to complete the set. I can’t memorize long strings of numbers at all, though.

    I’m can sometimes be organized. Once I organize the items in a storage container, I can keep it that way for a while, but then if things keep getting added and added, it’ll get cluttered again. I’d intend to organize it again, but oftentimes I’d procrastinate for months, or even years.

    I’m sorry that this was so long. If anyone read the whole thing, thank you, I really appreciate it. Putting all of this out on the Internet even anonymously is scary, but I would be grateful for any insight or information you might have on anything I’ve written here.
     
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    I would say that you have good reason to at least explore the possibilities of being on the spectrum of autism.

    Welcome to AC.
     
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    Hi!

    Perhaps you qualify for the label Autistic Spectrum Disorder or maybe you don't, but you are still all those things you listed. You really shouldn't need anyone's permission to be those things. That is you, label or no label.

    If this forum is of some service to you then I hope you stick around, even if you don't qualify for a label. Loud and shrill noises bother you and you will find others here that have the same experience. There aren't too many places to discuss that sorta problem.
     
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    Welcome.

    Whether or not Asperger's would be diagnosed would very much depend on where you live. It is still used in the UK :)
     
  7. MrIpcac

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    Thanks everyone.

    I live in the United States and I read that Aspergers isn't an official diagnosis.

    I think I will look around the site and see if I can learn anything at the very least. :)
     
  8. Dadwith2Autisticsons

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    Welcome to this forum. There are a lot of nice and insightful persons here, so you picked a great place. It may take a day or two before you get lots to participate, so stay tuned for more replies.

    First of all great job posting! You explained things so well, I think you may be surprised at some answers you get, as you made the job easier for several of us to give a more well informed opinion to your question by what you said, by the superb content and sample length of your posts.

    After reading your messages four times, I am about 95% confident with regards to what you likely have. Obviously, I would recommend a specialist do further testing to verify such, if a formal diagnosis is desired by you, but at the minimum you could research things further.

    But, as it is really late here in the US, I will post a very detailed reply tomorrow, probably as long as yours, that supports my belief, by breaking down each of the main issues in your posts further. The things you said all make sense to me, and I will tell you why later tomorrow.
     
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    When I started on this path I asked the same thing, 'am I autistic, do I have aspergers?'. I took online tests and talked to friends and described what you said above.

    After nearly year I arrived at my destination and concluded somewhere between "probably" and "likely".

    But during that time, the question changed.

    After a while, it stopped being about the label and if I fitted neatly into the aspergers bucket and the question became "what is it I'm looking for?"

    In my case, it was to find some people like me. Some people who could think outside the box, who didn't define and enforce "normal", who understood the need to be alone and who were direct and logical.

    There are many things that neuro special people reach out for, validation, coping mechanisms, reassurance, alleviation from boredom. What are you looking for?
     
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    I'd say, hang out here with us, and see.

    I had a job where I dealt with strangers all day. I love sarcasm and have a great sense of humor. I moved to a new place and gathered a group of friends there. I've been married twice (widowed) and have no trouble being romantic or surprising people. I have sensory issues with clothes.

    And I have Asperger's.
     
  11. Dadwith2Autisticsons

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    Hi. I will give now my opinion of your posts. Although you or others may disagree, that is fine, as at least I will explain why I believe as I do. Although there are a couple of signs and symptoms you mentioned that seem on the surface to be higher function Autism Spectrum Disorder, as in the US they now do not recognize Asperger's Syndrome as a condition, but that it is part of Autism Spectrum Disorder, like some finger and leg movements, and some rituals, only the sensory issues you mentioned seemed to possibly show that condition, but even that issue too could be explained to be something else, and not necessarily indicate higher functioning Autism.

    So, I personally think everything you mentioned in your posts is showing another condition mostly , and not really Autism or Aspergers Syndrome, though Autism and the condition I suspect instead are often dual diagnoses in patients up to 30% of the cases for those who have Autism. I personally think your signs and symptoms is showing mild to moderate ADD or ADHD. To start, my wife has a very severe case of ADHD, diagnosed through 9 hours of neuropsychological testing about a year ago. You have described about 95% of those things she has, but yours seems possibly less severe. Let me explain.

    First you talked about being an introvert, and from all the things you said I agree. Like my wife, she can though sometimes be social to some or joke to those she knows or trusts, but to the rest she has extreme discomfort at conversations, and is very hesitant to initiate conversation. She prefers passive activities and writing too. Lots can think she is more social than she is. She feels horrible at speaking, as she thinks she is too general and cannot get to the point, and too repetitive. It's as if she wants to act proper, but but sometimes does not know what to say or can not think clearly. In her case she talks fast. She too does not necessarily get stressed by persons though, either, so sometimes she can show an extroverted side in some ways.
    Research though say lots with ADHD are extroverts, but I think it just ill informed persons saying that. They really can be introverts, but are trying just to fit in as best as possible to seem more social.

    Lots of that lack of confidence in your social skills could be attention or concentration related, or auditory processing difficulty. And so one or more of the following things could be happening: Your mind is racing faster than normal, you have semi-disorganized thought processes, and you have attention or concentration difficulties. Maybe you often know what you want to say, but you cannot say it because you do not hear what they say properly because of poorer auditory processing, or as your mind is elsewhere or going too fast. I know you said you had no short term or memory issues, but then one sentence later you said you forget things and when you said you had difficulty remembering longer numbers, which is what my wife has difficulties with too, and when they tested her she got those numbers always mixed up

    With regards to your fidgetiness and finger, hand and feet issues, that sounds ADHD related. It is as if your hands or feet want to keep moving. My wife does all those things you talk about like moving her fingers a lot, and hair twirling, and she even is more hyperactive in wanting to walk very fast in stores and everywhere, and she cannot sit still. She is often pacing. Whereas you jump off steps, she occasionally hops or skips when others are not looking in public places, too. Although those with Autism type conditions can have such fidgetiness, I think your signs and symptoms mentioned sound less like that but more of the condition I suspect.

    You talk about routines, but you suggest or state you can deviate from such. It sounds like some routines are just habit, like that fast food one, or because of practicality or work need, like the getting up at certain times, or because of a need to have routines just to remember things better or make sure something is done, and as when you do not go to work, it looks like you prefer less routine and more spontaneity. And you say you do not have problems with figure of speech.This all does not sound much like Autism, though you say if you had that it would on the higher end, and such others may relate there. Our 7 year old son though is on the high end of the spectrum and he has numerous rigid routines, and difficulties with idioms and figurative language. I realize though some with Aspergers Syndrome though could not have routines and they could be fine with understanding language and others.

    You mentioned you liked making simpler foods, and implying you were not into details elsewhere in your posts as it stressed you, which can also suggest impatience, attention difficulty or disorganized thoughts, and impatience also shows up like when you also mentioned about wanting to take shorter routes and do not like getting stuck in traffic. Impatience, concentration difficulty and being stressed by detail, meaning preferring things done quickly, and thinking more generally, can be signs of ADD or ADHD. You seem somewhat organized by your posts, but long. My wife is long for writings as it is hard to get to points. She repeats things too, in writing and verbally, and goes off on tangents. I am lengthy in posts, too, but it is because of my analyzing and detailed ways. Verbally I am very brief, but relevant, and never repeat things.

    You have important details in your posts, too, and much clarity, but there are a few things you said that seems more narrative, general, or not relevant to your points. My wife does this a lot , verbally and in-person. I am not judging you badly, as I like my wife's similar style. I can only see so much over analysis or too technical stuff, and that bores me. I sense you bore easily too, by what you said.That is a sign of that condition which I suspect. I like those who are more relaxed in terms of organization versus disorganization. It's as if you are semi-organized. My wife calls herself an organized mess. She can organize certain things, but not others. But, she may not know where many things are because of faulty memory or somewhat cluttered thinking. That container example you gave, is exactly what my wife does. She throws papers on an organized container of paper, then procrastinates. Procrastination is another sign of ADD or ADHD.

    You mentioned your condition or signs and symptoms has been on and off since age twenty eight. That flexibility does not sound Autism or Aspergers related, but it sounds more situational related. That could imply there are times you are hyper focused on issues, and other times things could go smoother when those bothering few issues are not involved. While it is true those with Autism or Aspergers can have their good and bad days, when I read your posts I did not sense Autism or Aspergers much, if at all. You mentioned your parents had repetition issues. ADD or ADHD can be genetic, and passed down from a parent, if either had similar issues. My wife's Dad had very similar issues as my wife, but was never diagnosed.

    The sensory issues sound Aspergers related, but many other conditions can show sensory sensitivities. ADHD is one of those conditions. Research says those with ADHD can be hyperaware of their bodies. My wife has allergic issues, and hypersensitivity issues regarding smell, hearing, heat and air pressure, and pain. Whether your sensory issues are relating to mild Autism or Aspergers I am not sure. I just know if a doctor specialist without bias analyzed everything, they would see more ADD or ADHD signs and symptoms than Autism, though again it is not uncommon for patients to have both.

    And finally, you say you do not like to express emotions. My wife is the exact. It's as if she talk and writes about general or superficial things. She hates giving opinions about things and expressing her feelings. It is hard for her to process what she thinks and feels, and even harder to express it. She could express feelings only after it builds up lots inside, and more through action than words, with poor impulse control too, which can be a sign of ADD or ADHD too.. ...You say you do not understand etiquette, but then say others say you can act more formally or polite. That is telling too. Or again, it may just show you are trying to fit in. Your informal testing reveals less likely to be Autistic, or if you are it is very mild, but if you tested for ADD/ADHD I think that could show more, if not both conditions being somehow present.
     
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    My wife wanted me to send her version, as seen below, as she agreed fully with my opinion about an ADD or ADHD suspected diagnosis, after she read those posts.

    She did not write things in sentence format or narrative format, but in note or keyword style as she said he would be writing fifty pages she says, or could put it off for a few weeks, and as she is hyper focused on some other issue now. So, she just jotted the following facts and things down quickly that she noticed in those posts, and saying the one she relates to, or saying they could explain more that ADD or ADHD condition, instead of Autism or Aspergers as there seems more symptoms of that condition, and less of the other.

    Quoting her:

    "Social

    Work in retail and enjoys social interaction
    Introvert and similar hobbies like my myself (other research shows introverts and ADD are not too uncommon )
    Better in writing than verbally
    Can answer questions adequately, no awkward use of speech used (e.g. My autistic son talks more factual and technical, very awkward)
    Face to face focusing problem.....possible distracted?
    Can joke around, liked by others
    Lost touch with people over the years...hard to keep track
    Sociable as kid, thought of as class clown
    Escape to fantasy as kid, with video games and movies
    Impulse control problems as kid and thought of as goofy by others
    Still have speech issues despite therapy and ear tubes
    Auditory processing problem and concentration issues....brain problem, maybe not ear problem
    Self conscious about self to others
    Understand etiquette but can't apply rules, not autistic that cannot understand rules at all
    Social situation awkward extremes,...too goofy or too polite
    Introvert as self can talk more with writing....need visuals

    Sensory issues

    Loud noises, light, etc. clothes loose, etc....same situation

    Stimming
    More figity than stimming...sake e.g., twirl hair, bite nails....same situation
    Feel need to move body,regardless of situation...restlessness and extra energy
    Running....high energy and impulsiveness
    Not aware of others' space when running
    Jumping stairs...impulsive and extra energy

    Repeativtive
    Repeating words to self to comprehend what is being said better
    Awkward silence so feel need to talk
    Blurting out things as part of ADHD hyperactivity component
    Repeating even if nobody around, happening throughout lifetime
    Like writing stories....long too much to say and not getting to the point quickly enough....I am same way with long emails and letters
    Writing needs editing by others afterwards....spellling and grammar mistakes

    Routine
    Impatient in traffic needs to get home asap hence the same route every day
    Easy to make meals like sandwiches to eat
    Can't get cooking directions right
    Need motivation for shopping beyond what is already familiar with food and stores
    Have problems with waking up and sleeping....extra energy
    Need routine not autistic, but rather to make sure things are done correctly and on time
    Solitary activities in fantasy....same situation
    Doing many things and activities at once, lots of activities in spare time
    Not completing and completing hobbies and activities
    Feeling bored while doing activities wanting extra and something more from them
    Horrible at planning vacations thing that require your wife (his spouse) to do the planning
    Stories? Thought this was a post that was more narrative style. Less autistic style
    Obsessiveness = hyperfocus. Hyperfocus on interesting topics, so looks like obsession
    Got into things (e.g. Interests, tv shows, etc.) and then move on
    Need for move from many interesting things to another, not completing tasks, novelty and thrill seeking
    Spontaneous move with his gf/wife 300 miles away, impulsive
    Wanting to switch departments of job....novelty seeking...
    Bogged down by details in job....commute, interview changes, but still would like to change anyways...not typical autistic behavior....autistics like routine and details and same job usually
    Need to find new job as don't like routine of old and current job
    Structure and rules to get out of trouble....not typical behaviour for you
    Can break rules if need be.....as knows what to break and can do such without hesitation...not typical of Autistic
    Can do stuff and plan not but flexible in time....not typical of autistic as many autistic are rarely flexible with time and routines
    Can memorize sports cards and not numbers
    See big pictures rather than parts....can put cards in box, but can't organize in detail by numbers
    Numbers not interesting
    Difficulties in numbers, especially long ones.....get tested! Have similar severe difficulties with such....cant remember phone number for example
    Can be organized if want to but get cluttered again
    Out of sight out of mind mentality towards organization
    Storage container...same here

    Final points
    Apologizing for long posts...being long winded....similar here
    Appreciate honestly in telling story and very insightful...
    Get further evaluated for ADHD and for other conditions too....good luck
    Also seek further help from ADHD type forums, might get further insight and information there..."

    All that above was quoting my wife, as I had posted just prior. She basically thought it was a no-brainer that it was ADD or ADHD related after seeing all those facts, abilities, limitations, signs and symptoms and similarities. Also, she said those online tests were inconclusive or not an indicator of Aspergers or Autism.

    Anyone though can feel free to disagree.
     
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    Okay, I just realized when I copied and pasted my initial post from the Word document, It somehow didn't include one of the paragraphs. I'm sorry about that. Anyway, I do have an ADHD diagnosis from when I was 16. I'm 36 now. I did read a person could have both ADHD and autism, though, so I wanted to know if that might be the case with me, since, like I said, other people have thought that I was autistic. My father and brother also have ADHD.

    I do want to thank everyone for their thoughtful posts, especially Dadwit2autisticsons. I really appreciate all of your help. :)
     
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    Thanks. Yes, persons can have both, but if I had to make a decision on the postings you made, I would say it is likely not an Autism Spectrum condition, too, but just the other one I mentioned. I think many of those that have dual diagnoses of Autism and ADHD really like just have one condition.

    What likely happens in many cases is one doctor will say one diagnosis, then that patient gets another opinion and could get the other diagnosis. Then, the two seperate diagnoses from different doctors later somehow becomes a dual diagnosis, if another doctor comes into the picture. In other words, often a misdiagnosis can lead to dual diagnoses.
     
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    Hi. I checked that link for your online test results. Based on what showed up, although you have ADHD, you might want to take an online test version for Sensory Processing (Integration) Disorder, to see your score for that.

    A lot of doctors though are hesitant to diagnose that as a secondary or primary condition, as it is currently not part of the DSM. But, that could also explain the sensory issues you have for your ADHD. My wife scored high on such a test.

    But, as many here likely knows, I am a bit cynical of many doctors, and feel they usually are doing at least one thing wrong, regarding practice, policy or procedure. In this case, I feel as they know they cannot treat Sensory Processing Disorder, I feel they rather not diagnose such.

    Insurance companies and government likely too are putting pressure on entities not to officially create another sensory condition to be put in the DSM, though there are likely some doctors that could diagnose such a condition if they had adequate knowledge, evidence of such, and if the patient was persistent with such.
     
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    Thanks. I think I'll try to find one of those. :)

    Another thing I mentioned in that post that I maybe wasn't as clear on is that I don't really show emotions around other people. I feel emotions, probably about as strongly as most other people, but I don't emote, so to speak. People can usually tell if I'm nervous, but that's about the extent of it. I also don't laugh around people. I have a sense of humor and I can find things funny and amusing. Sometimes if I'm alone I can laugh, but even then it's a soft laugh and not a full-on belly laugh or anything like that the way other people do. If I'm around other people, the most I might do is a slight grin or this exhale-thing that I don't think other people notice. Is your wife at all like this?

    I'm also on medication for the ADHD. I'm not sure if that could account for anything. My wife is also on the same medication, though, and she doesn't have that issue. I do understand that medications can effect people differently, just as mental illnesses and neurological conditions can effect people differently.
     
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    I think some side effects of drugs for ADHD is withdrawn and apathetic behavior, so you may want to see if the dosage needs to be reduced, if that is the issue. For those that are more introverted, it is not uncommon to feel much more, than to show more. I am that way, too. In private, one-to-one I laugh a bit more and express more, than in public, because of trust reasons with the others.