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Featured Is it worth trying antidepressants?

Discussion in 'General Autism Discussion' started by Full Steam, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. Southern Discomfort

    Southern Discomfort Rambunctious Rambler V.I.P Member

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    The one I was on certainly gave me more energy. Way too much actually.
     
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  2. Bolletje

    Bolletje Well-Known Member

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    What antidepressants did you take, if I may ask?
     
  3. Southern Discomfort

    Southern Discomfort Rambunctious Rambler V.I.P Member

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    Sertraline. It also gave me insomnia.
     
  4. Jorg

    Jorg Well-Known Member

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    If you're a guy I'm sad to tell you antidepressants affect your "libido" or sex drive but mostly on the beginning.
     
  5. Full Steam

    Full Steam Well-Known Member

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    The one time I had prozac it had a very positive effect on libido.
     
  6. On the Inside

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    That may depend on you, and the medication.

    I have tried three AD's, Venlafaxine, a SNRI, caused me to lose interest in exercising, something that has never happened before. I gained 15 pounds.

    Other than that, I really haven't felt much effect on any of them, positive or negative, and I'm not interested in increasing doses to see what happens. I am taking Lexapro now, since October. Don't feel much effect, though I am exercising more and have lost some of the weight I gained. I seem to be more mood-stable.
     
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  7. On the Inside

    On the Inside Well-Known Member

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    Venlafaxine virtually eliminated my sex drive. Didn't believe that actually happened, but it does. Lexapro has curbed it just enough (which I am actually grateful for).
     
  8. Sugar_Skull_Boy

    Sugar_Skull_Boy A Vegan Burger

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    I found that taking pills did nothing really. I was on them for ages and they kept changing the pills I was taking and raising the dosage. I never felt any different when I was on them. I have always had issues with sleep and have never been happy with anything.
    So I just stopped taking them and nothing changed. I went into Asperger specific therapy in which I learnt to just accept who I was and that maybe I would never really experience happiness the same way as NT people do. I found that more useful, to know that my obsessive and lack of positive emotions was totally normal for me and to just accept it.
    To know that when I get into weird thought patterns and go through stages of unhappiness and anxiety, that this is normal and it will pass and to just fall back on whatever coping mechanisms you know or do whatever you do to take yourself away from normal life.
     
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  9. HermanHesse

    HermanHesse Well-Known Member

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    If you physiologically depressed than anti-depressants sound like the right answer. Finding the right one is hard but if you are not producing enough serotonin and/or dopamine it just makes sense to be on an anti-depressant.
     
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  10. HermanHesse

    HermanHesse Well-Known Member

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    I'm on Venlaflaxine at the moment at it took a lot out of my libido when I first got on it. Thankfully, it evened out later. Not that having a lower libido is necessarily a bad thing but it was disconcerting not to be interested in the fairer sex for a few days.
     
  11. ChrisN

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    I have been on a regimen of Prozac and Effexor for 2 years and it has helped considerably with slowing down my mind. I also take Welbutrin for SAD and overall depression and it works.
    I went to see a nutritionist, got a complete blood workup, went on a custom diet (with supplements) and it has helped very much. It cost a fortune but it was worth it, feeling the way I do now.
    I also am battling with booze. There are days, weeks months I can go without if without withdrawal problems (like none at all) but when the mood hits its hit the bottle. That is my next challenge to address.
    Let me know if I can share any life experiences with you.
     
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  12. tw3

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    How true that the knowledge of Aspergers' took away a lot of my anxiety and unsureness in social situations. I stopped worrying about "missing out" and got to accept more easily that I was just different.
    The Dr put me on Zoloft and now 5 years later I can skip a day or two but then my thoughts begin to whirl around. I wasn't depressed, but I got anxious to do things super quickly. Once or twice I got sort of disoriented because I was trying to think about or through too many things at one time. If I remembered to focus, to slow down, I did better but my mind was still in a turmoil. The Zoloft had a really beneficial effect in keeping me from getting all worked up.
    All this to say that Drs may give us a medication that gives real benefit outside it's accepted protocol and they may or may not know what they're doing. We need to be watching over ourselves as from a distance to analyze our reactions and make sure we tell the Dr what really happens.
    Finally, I think happiness like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, or rather in how he thinks. Life events can be interpreted differently depending on your point of view. That's determined by your thought life. The Bible sums it up quite well: Philippians 4:8 (KJV) "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things."
    This takes intention and practice, but it can be done.
     
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  13. wight

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    I found that anti-depressants helped me significantly. Prozac worked for a while, but I was really sensitive to dosage. I'm on Lexapro now. Since these thing are difficult to explain, I'll do it this way.

    Depression on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being "I'm so sad, hopeless, and low energy I can't even force myself to get out of bed." and 1 being "Mostly I'm not sad or hopeless and have energy to do things"

    My average day before switching meds was an 8 or 9. Now it's a 2 or 3.

    As others have pointed out, the right medication at the right dosage is pretty critical. I was fortunate to have a doctor that was knowledgeable and willing to work with me on both.
     
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  14. tallcreativedude

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    I take 20mg of Adderall twice a day, and it helps me stay focused so that I do not stray during social interactions. Before being diagnosed, I had this need to try and connect deeply with everybody I met, to try and get the most out of every moment. That mentality ruined a lot of relationships for me, making me come across as desperate and needy. It has always been difficult for me to sit back and watch people make mistakes because I've always been the guy who doesn't make mistakes because his words and actions come from the heart. I also supplement my diet with quite a few vitamins and minerals that I do not get from daily eating.
     
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  15. paloftoon

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    It would be good to presume that many medications are likely to lower your energy levels. So, maybe if that does not seem suitable at all, maybe you could consider a wellness coach for iridology. Usually, they say you want to do this in tandem with a regular doctor. It's very costly and unlikely to be covered by insurance, but if you have the funds and the time, it might be worth looking in to more.
     
  16. Sylar

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    I was prescribed an antidepressent once, somewhat against my will. I can't swallow pills so I chewed one up and ate it, shortly afterwards my heart was racing and I couldn't breathe comfortably. I don't know if that was anxiety or because the drug was supposed to take effect gradually as it desolves, all I can say is that I threw the rest of the package away.

    If you can take the medication and think you'll benefit from it then there's no long term harm from trying*. If you don't like the idea of a drug changing you as a person I would suggest a different type of therapy, or maybe a mixture. It all depends on the individual.

    *The only reason I say that is because I was given a "default" dosage that would last around a month. Possible side effects included increased levels of anxiety and depression in the first few weeks. Again, this works on an individual basis, you might need stronger pills or weaker pills, it's impossible to say how they'll affect you or your energy levels without some trial and error.
     
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  17. Alcyon

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    It might be worth looking into why iridology isn't covered by insurance; the charge that it's pseudoscientific quackery is rather more than merely tenable.

    There aren't very many four hundred year old medical postulates that have held up over time; iridology sure isn't one of them.
     
  18. paloftoon

    paloftoon Well-Known Member

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    I mention it because I have a friend whose health has improved greatly because of it. She told me that doctors have not been able to figure out what's wrong with her. Of course, she could be the exception rather than the rule. Also, if there are a few people who are able to practice solely on "quackery", then it must be working for at least a few people. Enough for them to make a living.

    Insurance is arguably not all it's "cracked up to be" either, but it's better than nothing of course.
     
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  19. Alcyon

    Alcyon Well-Known Member

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    First: don't take this as a personal assault. I find this type of phenomenon fascinating and often worthy of consideration. Second: what another does or doesn't do is no business of mine; to each their own. When something is recommended to others, I start to take an interest.

    One of the sad aspects of serious mental or physical health problems that aren't quickly understood and/or resolved is that it leaves near hopeless people vulnerable to accepting solutions that aren't in their best long-term interest.

    Iridology, homeopathy, the list of such offerings is lengthy. Did your friend get better while under the care of an iridologist? I don't know what her issue was, but it is quite possible. Did she get better because of the iridologist's treatment? Again, possible. Much of the treatment, from what I can see is modifying diet. If someone puts down the Twinkies and picks up fresh fruit and veggies, how can things not improve? Also, alternative practitioners do something that medical doctors often, for whatever reason, don't or can't do: they listen. They make the patient feel that they are being taken care of. It's been plausibly theorised that has a powerful, beneficial placebo effect.

    Did your friend get better because of iridology itself. No. It doesn't work because it can not work as described. And it is often hellaciously expensive. Unfortunately, there are many people for whom "anecdote" is too often a synonym for "evidence"; so treatments proven to be utter nonsense, if not outright dangerous, continue to exist.

    And, yes, much of this can tenably be said about conventional psychiatry.
     
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  20. Aster

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    You mentioned 5-htp as an alternative to psych meds. There are countless other remedies including exercise, which has proven as effective as ssris. I had a good run with St John's wort, Perika brand in the past. I'm trying a generic now and not having results. There's Sam-e, a little pricy but effective. Then there's vitamins and minerals which you may be deficient in. Most are deficient in d3 from lack of sun. B vitamins are good for more energy by some accounts. B-12 gives me a little boost. L-theanine derived from tea is good too. I've tried many antidepressants, a couple antipsychotics and antianxiety drugs. In my experience the cons always outweighed the pros. Toothless recommended the cbd. I've tried the tincture which is calming. There's an instant kava powder which is a great replacement for alcohol. It's slightly intoxicating. Just don't mix with alcohol. Let us know what you try. I'm still looking for something to work nicely too
     
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