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How do you rate the work of Mark Hutton?

Jesse

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Hi all,

I'm actively looking for sources of help for my AS/NT marriage - I'm the Aspie by the way. And before we make an investment I thought that I would ask my friends on Aspies Central for their opinion - have any of you read it and if you have was it good?

I have seen Mark Huttons videos on YouTube for years but I have never paid to download any of his ebooks. Im now tempted to download 'Living With An Aspergers Partner or Spouse' which costs $19.00 which seems expensive but it does seem to also enable you to ask Mark questions via email. If its half as good as it claims to be it would be money well worth spending.

It also comes with a money back guarantee;


This program has a GUARANTEE, so there's absolutely NO WAY that you can lose!

If for any reason you are not thrilled and satisfied with your purchase,
just email me {[email protected]} for a 100% prompt and courteous refund.

If you have any questions about Living with an Aspergers Partner,
or the Email Consultation service included in this program,
call {765-810-3319} or email {[email protected]}.

If you are not familiar with this resource but would like to find out more you can use the link below:

Living with an Aspergers Partner

So people - is it worth the money? Any help and feedback would be very much appreciated.
 
Hi all,

I have been doing some more digging and it seems I might well have been right to be suspicious. There is a discussion on the wrongplannet forum about him and one of his other books which is far from flattering : Mark Hutten; Launching Children with Aspergers - Parents' Discussion

I just find it so sad that someone could be so cruel as to appear to hold the key to the end of your marriage problems but in fact simply be out to make money without offering any meaningful help!
 
Hi all,

I have been doing some more digging and it seems I might well have been right to be suspicious. There is a discussion on the wrongplannet forum about him and one of his other books which is far from flattering : Mark Hutten; Launching Children with Aspergers - Parents' Discussion

I just find it so sad that someone could be so cruel as to appear to hold the key to the end of your marriage problems but in fact simply be out to make money without offering any meaningful help!

The sales letter/ article - however you want to call it - makes me smile :) the author targets people who are not on the spectrum, confused, afraid or full of self- doubt. The 80% divorce rate right in the beginning throws me off emediately: which research? I've heard about a research, that proves that there's no difference in divorce rates between families with Asperger's and the ones without.

And I would worry about people being "cruel": it's just business, the author wants to sell the book.

I always read reviews 1st before I buy any book, and check if an author has some sort of "look inside the book", those usually give me pretty good idea whether I will like the book or not.
 
I don't know anything about Mark Hutton or his book, but I wonder about the money back guarantee--what would happen if you said you weren't satisfied and it didn't help you? Would he pay up or would you have to somehow "prove" your claim?

Whenever I have a question about that sort of thing I always turn to rickross.com. If a name shows up in the forum discussions I consider it something to be somewhat concerned about. The more times that name comes up--the more threads about it--the more cause for alarm. Perhaps you might want to post your question there and see what comes up.
 
Hi Everybody,

I bought Mark Hutten's 'book'. I felt it was very poor and nothing like the testimonials that advertised it. I wrote to him expressing my disappointment.

In my reply I was polite albeit forthright as I was so surprised that he could charge $19 for what was a rather poor pamphlet size piece of what was no more than basic common sense and not the sort of miracle cure he suggested on the web site. Anyhow, he replied………….Here it is word for word. I leave you to make up your own mind:



"This sounds like a childish temper tantrum here.

Are you always an ass like this, or are you making a special effort with me?

You've claimed I'm a scam artist, are are threatening to post this on forums! Go ahead... if you want to suffer the legal repercussions of such actions.

This is no scam. Thousands of people have benefited from my program... and many have taken the time to tell me so in follow-up emails. Should I listen to them, or one asshole such as yourself.

You probably didn't listen to the audio that came with your program. And you totally bypassed the follow-up coaching that also comes with the program. What a mistake on your part - not mine.

I'm going to refund your money, now.

Stay off my site. Grow up. Get a life."

Mark
 
Frankly I am surprised you got your money back. The rest of it doesn't surprise me.

By the way, the rickross.com domain name has been sold and it is no longer the site address for Cult Information Network. I am not sure why that has happened, but it might be that there were some groups or individuals that weren't too happy with the work the site was doing and this is their way of shutting it down. It's a shame because it was a great resource.
 
By the way, the rickross.com domain name has been sold and it is no longer the site address for Cult Information Network. I am not sure why that has happened, but it might be that there were some groups or individuals that weren't too happy with the work the site was doing and this is their way of shutting it down. It's a shame because it was a great resource.

Hmm, now it's a website with information about casinos, oddly enough (at first, I thought it might have been sold because there's a rapper by the same name).

UPDATE: The Rick Ross you're talking about appears to have a new website:

http://www.culteducation.com/
 
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Hi Everybody,

I bought Mark Hutten's 'book'. I felt it was very poor and nothing like the testimonials that advertised it. I wrote to him expressing my disappointment.

In my reply I was polite albeit forthright as I was so surprised that he could charge $19 for what was a rather poor pamphlet size piece of what was no more than basic common sense and not the sort of miracle cure he suggested on the web site. Anyhow, he replied………….Here it is word for word. I leave you to make up your own mind:



"This sounds like a childish temper tantrum here.

Are you always an ass like this, or are you making a special effort with me?

You've claimed I'm a scam artist, are are threatening to post this on forums! Go ahead... if you want to suffer the legal repercussions of such actions.

This is no scam. Thousands of people have benefited from my program... and many have taken the time to tell me so in follow-up emails. Should I listen to them, or one asshole such as yourself.

You probably didn't listen to the audio that came with your program. And you totally bypassed the follow-up coaching that also comes with the program. What a mistake on your part - not mine.

I'm going to refund your money, now.

Stay off my site. Grow up. Get a life."

Mark

Did he write back on paper, or just email? If it's paper, keep it. Handy proof the guy is a moron!
 
This guy sounds like more than just a garden variety dodgy scam artist: he sounds like he is potentially dangerous! Can you imagine a vulnerable Aspie receiving such a message full of insults, threats & name-calling when all he expected was some support? The New Age movement together with all the self-help do-it-yourself shrink movement have spawned an entire industry replete with unqualified 'experts' eager to help relieve vulnerable people of their hard-earned income. Be careful of any 'money back guarantee' claims on any self-help book or programme. Be wary of anyone claiming to have expertise who has no legitimate academic professional credentials that you can readily verify. Beware of anyone claiming to have helped thousands of 'people just like you' & backs it will smarmy testimonials.
 
Hi Everybody,

I bought Mark Hutten's 'book'. I felt it was very poor and nothing like the testimonials that advertised it. I wrote to him expressing my disappointment.

In my reply I was polite albeit forthright as I was so surprised that he could charge $19 for what was a rather poor pamphlet size piece of what was no more than basic common sense and not the sort of miracle cure he suggested on the web site. Anyhow, he replied………….Here it is word for word. I leave you to make up your own mind:



"This sounds like a childish temper tantrum here.

Are you always an ass like this, or are you making a special effort with me?

You've claimed I'm a scam artist, are are threatening to post this on forums! Go ahead... if you want to suffer the legal repercussions of such actions.

This is no scam. Thousands of people have benefited from my program... and many have taken the time to tell me so in follow-up emails. Should I listen to them, or one asshole such as yourself.

You probably didn't listen to the audio that came with your program. And you totally bypassed the follow-up coaching that also comes with the program. What a mistake on your part - not mine.

I'm going to refund your money, now.

Stay off my site. Grow up. Get a life."

Mark

On average Men work and Women stay home watching Hallmark TV and reading books wondering why their marriages suck and YOU GIVE many wives A FALSE REASON TO BLAME THEIR HUSBAND for it. Our marriage problems are 90% my wife's fault. I can promise you that. I focus on her everyday trying to make her happy but she ignores me because kids and church work makes her happy and she never does one thing for me. Then she chews me out on the weekend because she is unhappy. So now talk a lot less, but I do that NOT because of some Asbergers but because it does not do any good to talk, it just hurts. I am tired of asking for her time and being rejected and we have tried counseling but she does not do what the counselor said do and still puts all the blame on me and your book does not help. She has the tendencies of a naccisst. I talk a lot less than I naturally would and so SHE thinks I have Asbergers (OMG how wrong that is because nothing can ever be her fault)!!! ALL Men talk less- when talking does not help....any guy would know that..I will say your audio part #2 was good, but part #1 was nonsense...you need to work on it further...
 
Mark Hutton and I have gotten into it a few times after he posted on YouTube. It's funny how the neurotypical people praise him for all the fine work and perspective he presents. Then the autistics are often presenting how he minimizes autism by presenting it as "neurodiversity" and not a real physiological and anatomical issue in the brain. Mark tries to "soften" the edges of the condition for the consumption of people who are not autistic. He's also taking the perspective of a psychologist. However, I tend to look at things from the medical model: brain anatomy, neurotransmitter function, conductivity, connectivity, immune function, endocrine function, etc. I think he has a very biased perspective which not only creates a situation of minimization by the neurotypical, but the autistic person in question is often treated "less than", and totally misses the real issues, from the medical model, that the autistic must deal with to try to be "socially appropriate". "Just change your behavior, and all will be well." Most of his videos are about helping the neurotypical-autistic relationship by basically saying that autistic behaviors must change in order to have a successful relationship, which is totally untrue.
 
So people - is it worth the money? Any help and feedback would be very much appreciated.
Avoid Mark Huttan MA: to use the American vernacular; he's full of it!
The MA that follows his name is no guarantee of a genuine inquiry for the benefit of people with autism.
At best, he's bigoted and lacking for the need of the examination his own rigid notions, regarding behaviour. At worst he's a snake oil salesman, making status for himself by promulgating overturned science and the populistic stereotypes that have taken hold in autism 'science'. Much of what he says is simply wrong, yet he states it without leeway. It looks more like an issue of the 'proper way to act', rather than productive and critical contemporary thinking.

'Lack of Empathy' and 'Theory of Mind' have been challenged and found wanting. Making statements that "he", (when Mark Huttan talks an autist child), has no emotional understanding of the world is wrong. In hostile environments, 'we' all emotional protect ourselves.

It does look like some in America wants to hold fast to it's idea that autism needs to be fixed because it's a social fault; a disorder, instead of embracing that culture needs to make accommodations and changes. In the UK, you can now get an 'ASC'. 'Condition' replaces 'disorder'. The fact that some have tried to compound autism and serial killers, should tell you something about the lack of real enquiry into autism that some make.

I have met social a social worker, mental health workers, charity shop workers and others who have AS diagnosis. That's why it get called a 'spectrum', and identifying co-morbids as 'autism' is erroneous and unhelpful, as is the confusion of Narcissism and Autism. It is also erroneous to point to the outer far reaches of compound disablement and claim them as measure and definition of autism
 

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